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Message 11387 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 18:02:06 UTC

Hi,my 4 GTX295s runs 1 task each at time,I know they might run 4 tasks each,2 each 295 processor.
I loaded all the video outputs,extended to two desktops each card,and the OS correctly reconyze 8 GTX295 for 4 cards.
The Boinc manager see 4 GTX295
What can I do more?

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Message 11388 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 18:06:05 UTC - in response to Message 11387.

Hi Max,
which computer are your referring to?
You don't seem to have a 4 GTX295 machine.
http://www.gpugrid.net/hosts_user.php?userid=28232

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Message 11389 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 18:16:13 UTC - in response to Message 11388.

I have two 3x GTX295 PCs and I'm about to place the fourth card back inside each,I'm just waiting for two 1500W PSs as I suspect the actual 1350W PSs are not enough as I got a lot of "error while computing" when they were loaded with 4 GTX295 cards.

My suspect is I'm anyway running 50% of those cards capability as the OS reconize 2 times the cores respect to the Boinc manager?

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Message 11390 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 18:45:59 UTC - in response to Message 11389.
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Hi Speedmax, have you switched off SLI for those machines and just to verify, you did not install the SLI bridge connectors, right ? What powersupplies are you currently using and which ones did you order ? (the exact brand and type please). I am also curious, which motherboard are you using ? regards, H.
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Message 11395 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 19:38:06 UTC - in response to Message 11390.

Hi H.,
yes neither SLI on or bridges.
I actually use Coolmax 1350B PSs and I ordered two Silverstone ST1500 for the 4 GTX295 cards PCs.
I use all ASUS P6T7 WS SuperComputer but one P6T6 WS Revolution.

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Message 11397 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 19:46:23 UTC

Are you running 1 task per 295?

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Message 11399 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 19:56:37 UTC - in response to Message 11395.
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Hi, the Silverstone will really *just* do at 25 A on 12 V each. the Coolmax can only barely support 2 to 3 cards because of the amperage on the 12 volt lines. 20 A on a 12 V line is not enough. The Asus bord looks like fun :)

@ Mr S: From his machine overview I would be tempted to deduce that BOINC only sees one GPU per GTX295.

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Message 11405 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 21:21:07 UTC - in response to Message 11397.

Yes,I'm just running 1 task each 295 card,while the OS detect 2 GPU each card correctly,the Boinc manager only detects one.
What could I try next?

About the PS I choosed the Coolmax 1350B because suggested on the NVIDIA site to feed 1 FX5800 + 3x Tesla cards.
Next week I might receive the Tesla cards to make this try!

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Message 11406 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 21:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 11399.
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I just realized, you now have two spare powersupplies, so you can hook up the Coolmax to two gtxes using a 25 A line on the 8-pin *and* one 20 A line on the 6-pin each. You can then do the same with the Silverstone cables, using TWO 12V connections for each GTX295, so one 25 A line for the 8-pin and another different 25 A line for the 6-pin.

You need to slave the Coolmax to the Silverstone using a special motherboard slave plug, or build a slave switch yourself. Do not switch this by hand, you may damage the cards. I use four 700 W powersupplies for my system with three slaved powersupplies to my master supply which also feeds the motherboard.

You might try to fully power only two GTXes and see if you now get 4 GPUs in BOINC with two cards installed. You can try this even with the Coolmax ps.
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Message 11407 - Posted: 27 Jul 2009 | 21:33:32 UTC - in response to Message 11406.

Wow! I will check if there is something ready to do this first!

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Message 11411 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009 | 2:20:51 UTC

Is multi-gpu mode turned on in the nvidia control panel?

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Message 11419 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009 | 7:19:35 UTC - in response to Message 11411.

I get that option for one card plugged-in only instead of the "enable SLI" option.

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Message 11437 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009 | 15:16:39 UTC - in response to Message 11419.

Hi H.
Now one three 295 cards pc runs 4 GPU on 6 instead of 3,so it's a power problem!!!
As you said must use multiple PSs to feed 4 cards!!
I hope the 1500W will be good for three cards at least! I will make up a third PC for the remaining two cards eventually.


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Message 11439 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009 | 15:55:15 UTC - in response to Message 11437.

Hi Max, very good ! congratulations.
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Message 11443 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009 | 16:35:31 UTC - in response to Message 11439.

One more problem!

Why the OS doesn't reconaize the 4th FX5800 card?
Again a power lack problem? I use the same 1350W PS I use to feed 1 FX5800 + 3x FX3800 in another pc.
And more that 1350W PS is the one suggested by NVIDIA to feed 1x FX5800 + 3x TESLA.

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Message 11450 - Posted: 28 Jul 2009 | 20:02:56 UTC

Did you see here how tricky it is to get 4 GTX 295 running?

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Message 11460 - Posted: 29 Jul 2009 | 9:51:14 UTC - in response to Message 11443.

Why the OS doesn't reconaize the 4th FX5800 card?
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I do not know, unfortunately.

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Message 11472 - Posted: 29 Jul 2009 | 14:51:28 UTC - in response to Message 11460.

:)
I will try to insert better the 4th card.....as I will find my hammer

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Message 11473 - Posted: 29 Jul 2009 | 15:01:34 UTC - in response to Message 11450.

Thank you MrS!
I see that fine H. work!

H., following your hints I joined two 1350W PSs,but now I see,from the suggested thread, its not easy anyway!!

The PC perform 4 task with 4 cards and make lots of errors.

I will change the driver to the one you suggest and try again.
Maybe Windows 7 is not the right OS?
I have a Vista 64bit but I guess it would be about the same?
I might receive XP 64bit shortly,in this while I will downsize to three cards.

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Message 11474 - Posted: 29 Jul 2009 | 15:17:08 UTC - in response to Message 11473.

Wher to find the 178.13 driver,I can find back to the 181.71 only on the NVIDIA site?

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Message 11475 - Posted: 29 Jul 2009 | 15:46:58 UTC - in response to Message 11474.

Found!

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Message 11597 - Posted: 2 Aug 2009 | 11:47:50 UTC - in response to Message 11475.

Hi H.
So I will try to use 2x ST1500 Silverstone PSs each 4 GTX295 cards setup.
They have 4 separate 25A outs each for the graphic cards.

A problem I found with the Coolmax 1350B instead,is only the two 20A outs are clearly shown on the manual,the two useful 25A are messed up with the CPU-Peripherals-MB outs! Can you imagine it? The 8 outs draw 40A only together!!
They are not even enough to feed 1 FX5800 + 3 Tesla as suggested on the NVIDIA site.Using the mixed 2 25A outs to feed the 3rd and 4th cards could make too mess with the CPU-MB needs?
I guess I would need two of those 1350B PSs to feed these 4 Quadro-Tesla cards too?
I will even need to rise my home power up to 10kW!

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Message 11601 - Posted: 2 Aug 2009 | 13:34:35 UTC

02.08.2009 16:30:53 GPUGRID Message from server: (reached limit of 1 GPU tasks)
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Message 11611 - Posted: 2 Aug 2009 | 17:51:16 UTC - in response to Message 11597.

Hi H.
So I will try to use 2x ST1500 Silverstone PSs each 4 GTX295 cards setup.
They have 4 separate 25A outs each for the graphic cards.

A problem I found with the Coolmax 1350B instead,is only the two 20A outs are clearly shown on the manual,the two useful 25A are messed up with the CPU-Peripherals-MB outs! Can you imagine it? The 8 outs draw 40A only together!!
They are not even enough to feed 1 FX5800 + 3 Tesla as suggested on the NVIDIA site.Using the mixed 2 25A outs to feed the 3rd and 4th cards could make too mess with the CPU-MB needs?


Hi max, if you are going to buy additional powersupplies anyway I would recommend you change to the Decathlon series of Silverstone. I now use a DA1000 in the new development machine. They also have a DA1200, the DA1200 offers 90 A on one rail with plenty of connections. This way you do not need to keep track of which plug uses what. One DA1200 and one DA1000 will fully power your system if you use the DA1200 to power the motherboard. If you use two powersupplies in one machine, please use a motherboard slave connector or a slave box to switch on the second PS (I built mine myself). If you already have the ST1500, please read the manual and plan your connections carefully. Good luck.

On the driver topic: you can now use the 190.38 driver, they work with 4 gtx295.

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Message 11625 - Posted: 3 Aug 2009 | 13:00:20 UTC - in response to Message 11611.

Many thnks for your hints H.!!
Too bad I've 6 ST1500 coming already!!
Who knows in the future maybe I will plan to make up more PCs,maybe with the new 3 generation NVIDIA cards?
I've red they will come before 2009 ends?


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