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Message 11745 - Posted: 9 Aug 2009 | 8:46:28 UTC
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Before the end of the month, we will try to see if cuda2.3 fixes some outstanding fft bug that people with gtx260 are experiencing.

Internal tests showed that it could be the case, but then everyone must run on 190.xx drivers.

No schedule for the change yet.

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Message 11801 - Posted: 11 Aug 2009 | 7:38:49 UTC - in response to Message 11745.

That would be great!
Can't crunch GPUGRID anymore on my GTX260 since you switched to CUDA 2.2...
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Message 11826 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009 | 3:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 11745.

Before the end of the month, we will try to see if cuda2.3 fixes some outstanding fft bug that people with gtx260 are experiencing.

Internal tests showed that it could be the case, but then everyone must run on 190.xx drivers.

No schedule for the change yet.

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HMM, SEEING HOW MY GTX 260 CRUNCHES FINE... With

System..

Vista 32-bit SP2
Dell Mb
BFG GTX 216 FOC 216 cores.


I've noticed lately that a lot of the evga cards have something bad in-relation to driver 190.38...

granted about a month or 2 ago, i had wu's erring out but i attribute that to Aqua Cuda wu's...

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Message 11844 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009 | 16:34:32 UTC

I'll wait for it! GTX260 from Gigabyte (192 cores) can't process gpugrid's Wus on x64 system.

But with this bug I have crunched few SETI cuda WUs and found a "Collatz Conjecture" project to make my gpu not be idle... :-)
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Message 11849 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009 | 17:55:05 UTC

Always me with one GTX 260+ + 8800 GT on vista 64 and boinc 6.6.36

I try 190.38 driver. And I have always errors. The sames since driver superior than 182.5.
With 182.5 my two graphics cards works well.

Why why why....

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Message 11850 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009 | 18:17:00 UTC

My WUs don't complete in 24h anymore,
are the new WUs longer or is the app slower or is it my computer?

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Message 11863 - Posted: 13 Aug 2009 | 23:44:35 UTC - in response to Message 11849.

Always me with one GTX 260+ + 8800 GT on vista 64 and boinc 6.6.36

I try 190.38 driver. And I have always errors. The sames since driver superior than 182.5.
With 182.5 my two graphics cards works well.

Why why why....


Try using CUDA 2.3 and the 190.38 driver!

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Message 11900 - Posted: 14 Aug 2009 | 10:05:32 UTC

Hi,
for a couple of months i had no problems with boinc, Seti, Gpugrid and vista64. But when i came back from vacation a week ago, something strange happened. Windows did a lot of updates and the graphic-driver (?) reports, that a reset was necessary. A running gpugrid-wu reports an error. Most seti-wu work, but not all. This driver-reset happens 3 or 4 times a day.
I updated to the latest nvidia-drivers and BOINC and tried to understand, what other boinc-users report about ther problems. I've seen, that the GT260 seems to have a problem, but i do not understand all the other post about SDK, upcoming versions aso.
I would be really happy, if anyone could explain, what happend and which solutions are available in words, that are understandable for non-DSK users and people, who do not think, that running BOINC is the primary goal for a computer.
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Message 11907 - Posted: 14 Aug 2009 | 20:09:11 UTC - in response to Message 11863.
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Surely I have cuda 2.3

And I have always the same errors like other drivers sup than 182.5 ---->

14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_1 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_2 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_3 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent

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Message 11908 - Posted: 14 Aug 2009 | 20:50:59 UTC - in response to Message 11907.

the fact that you install the 2.3 toolkit is irrelevant.
You are still using the 2.2 runtime that we distribute.

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Message 11909 - Posted: 14 Aug 2009 | 22:05:36 UTC

And Why I have always this message ?


With 182.5 I crunch witout pb. with other driver it's catastrophe. all wus crash

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Message 11910 - Posted: 15 Aug 2009 | 5:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 11907.

Surely I have cuda 2.3

And I have always the same errors like other drivers sup than 182.5 ---->
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_1 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_2 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_3 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent


Each project distributes the cuda runtime and FFT libraries. CUDART.DLL is the runtime and CUFFT.DLL is the FFT one. They put them into their BOINC project folder. This way its possible to have a different set of files for each project. Provided the driver you run can support the later DLL's it usually works.

The cuda toolkit has no bearing on any of this, unless you want to develop your own application. Its not needed. The project supply all the stuff need to run their science application.

The GPUgrid app seems to have particular problems with GTX260 cards. Driver 182.50 worked, but its only cuda 2.1 capable. GPUgrid have moved onto a cuda 2.2 app which means you'll need a minimum driver version of 185.x. The 190.38 driver supports cuda 2.3 as well as the older cuda versions, but as I said GPUgrid has particular problems with GTX260 cards. Why? Well if they knew that they would probably be able to work around it.

And before you think about putting the cuda 2.3 DLL's into the GPUgrid projects folder it won't work. BOINC keeps a signature of the file so it knows if its different to the one supplied by the project. There is a way around this using an app_info, but it takes a bit of expertise to create one.
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Message 11912 - Posted: 15 Aug 2009 | 6:42:46 UTC

There is a lot of mess happening to my systems also...
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a lot of units fails now although (especially on the 9600gt) it worked flawless before. will got to nnw for gpugrid, try collatz

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Message 11914 - Posted: 15 Aug 2009 | 12:10:00 UTC

Werkstatt / Alex,

sorry, currently there's not much you can do. Nevermind the talk about the toolit / SDK, it doesn't make a difference. You can try downgrading to drivers 185.xx or 186.18, but in many cases this has not helped.

Formulaman,

which errors do you get? Your computers are hidden, so we can't take a look.

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Message 11924 - Posted: 15 Aug 2009 | 20:11:50 UTC - in response to Message 11850.

My WUs don't complete in 24h anymore,
are the new WUs longer or is the app slower or is it my computer?


One thing I've seen is the card dropping to 2d clocks check your card clockspeed and if need be force 3d in riva

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Message 11963 - Posted: 19 Aug 2009 | 2:39:11 UTC

Well, is there any progress with cuda 2.3? When we will be able to start crunch again with our 260s? :-)
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Message 11973 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 16:45:01 UTC - in response to Message 11963.

We have now selectively assigning a cuda2.3 application to people with a 190 driver only. This is a test. We keep it on if it does not give problems.
It should be transparent to older driver users.

You need a recent BOINC version to receive the new application.
Only for Windows so far.

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Message 11975 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 17:10:16 UTC - in response to Message 11973.

Recent as "6.6.x"?

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Message 11976 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 17:29:24 UTC - in response to Message 11975.
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I'll grab one and check it out.

vista 32-bit, gtx 260. 190.38

edit: it's running.....

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Message 11977 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 17:30:21 UTC - in response to Message 11975.
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The client needs to be able to report the driver version.
If in your host list you see the driver version, then you are probably fine, otherwise you would just receive the 2.2 application.

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Message 11978 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 17:33:45 UTC - in response to Message 11977.
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to me, it could just be the wu is a short one, or it's running faster with 2.3.....

3(rt) minutes = .5 %

link to test wu in progress:

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1135107

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Message 11979 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 17:46:15 UTC

Task 1134614 arrived safely with a cuda23 designation - including the 8MB cufft download!

I've bumped it to run immediately, but still estimating 18 hrs on the 9800GTX+. BOINC v6.6.37, nothing else needed (except the drivers) to get it to download.

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Message 11981 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 18:08:54 UTC - in response to Message 11978.
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I am the user of this day!
I will try on one gpu with errors:
20.8.2009 20:52:08 CUDA device: GeForce GTX 260 (driver version 19038, compute capability 1.3, 896MB, est. 96GFLOPS)
Task: http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1137304

est. 96GFLOPS ????


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Message 11982 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 18:28:42 UTC - in response to Message 11981.

I am the user of this day!
I will try on one gpu with errors:
20.8.2009 20:52:08 CUDA device: GeForce GTX 260 (driver version 19038, compute capability 1.3, 896MB, est. 96GFLOPS)
Task: http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1137304

est. 96GFLOPS ????


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that card must have stock core value..

my card is est. 106 gflops with 216 core.

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Message 11984 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 18:36:43 UTC - in response to Message 11982.
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Yep, that is a stock core value..
It is Now as it arrived from production line from china!
Testing,and edit: I have many friends from china it is not a country fault.

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20.8.2009 22:02:24 Starting BOINC client version 6.6.36 for windows_intelx86
20.8.2009 22:02:24 log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Libraries: libcurl/7.19.4 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Data directory: C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\BOINC
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Running under account tbymark
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Processor: 2 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+ [x86 Family 15 Model 107 Stepping 2]
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 3dnow mmx
20.8.2009 22:02:24 OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional x86 Edition, Service Pack 3, (05.01.2600.00)
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Memory: 2.00 GB physical, 3.85 GB virtual
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Disk: 244.14 GB total, 234.25 GB free
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Local time is UTC +3 hours
20.8.2009 22:02:24 CUDA device: GeForce GTX 260 (driver version 19038, compute capability 1.3, 896MB, est. 96GFLOPS)
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Not using a proxy
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Collatz Conjecture URL: http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/; Computer ID: 1201; location: (none); project prefs: default
20.8.2009 22:02:24 GPUGRID URL: http://www.gpugrid.net/; Computer ID: 35303; location: (none); project prefs: default
20.8.2009 22:02:24 No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Reading preferences override file
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1228.30MB
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 1944.81MB
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Preferences limit disk usage to 100.00GB
20.8.2009 22:02:24 Suspending network activity - user is active

Edit: Running, slow but running....
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Message 11987 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 21:35:50 UTC
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2.3 Running good on XP64 with 2 EVGA 260s, previous version ran good as well.

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Message 11988 - Posted: 20 Aug 2009 | 23:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 11987.

I've noticed that running this new app, my gpu is running about 1-2 C cooler.

61 C.

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Message 11989 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 0:57:57 UTC - in response to Message 11987.

Spoke too soon, having some compute errors..


2.3 Running good on XP64 with 2 EVGA 260s, previous version ran good as well.

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Message 11995 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 3:55:26 UTC

Got one for test. 11 minutes - still normal flight.

Confirming that GPU core is working on appr. 4°С higher temperature. After manual setting of GPU cooler rotation (70% of max.) it fell down from 80°С to 72°С (overclocked GTX260 from Gigabyte).
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Message 12001 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 5:39:31 UTC - in response to Message 11982.

Nope, Error while computing 189.69

I am the user of this day!
I will try on one gpu with errors:
20.8.2009 20:52:08 CUDA device: GeForce GTX 260 (driver version 19038, compute capability 1.3, 896MB, est. 96GFLOPS)
Task: http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1137304

est. 96GFLOPS ????


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that card must have stock core value..

my card is est. 106 gflops with 216 core.


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Message 12002 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 7:32:01 UTC

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Message 12003 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 7:59:11 UTC - in response to Message 12002.

Mark Henderson, your case seem to be due to overclocking.
It's not the error FFT or PME related.

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Message 12004 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 8:03:05 UTC - in response to Message 12003.

Bymark,
which result did error out for you?

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Message 12005 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 8:03:28 UTC - in response to Message 11977.

Knowing from the news line, that from today only 6.6.36 BOIC mngr will able to run GPUGRID with 190.38 cuda 2,3 dirvers, yesterday was make a several attepts to update the system to the new, recommended level. Also decide to install additional GTX 260 card (2 are almost running weil).
So, system: Q9550 \ ASUS WS Evolution MoBo, Windows server 2008 SP2, 2 x ASUS GTX 260. BOIC version 6.5.0 (previosly recommended on GPUGRID site), drivers version 185.25.
Install BOIC 6.6.36. Reboot. BOINC shows just one GPU. OK, put typical cc_config enabling use of all gpu's. Reboot. BOINC shows two GPU's. No one is running. Previous jobs (from the cache) stays untouched with the "Waiting to run" message. BOIC is regularily asking MW server for WU's for GPU (???). Yes, I'm running non ATI CAL (gpu) version on the rest Q9550 cores, all works fine. But was no any wish to replace MW job to my GPUGRID gpu's.
Hmm.
Decided to install 3-rd GTX 260, drop it into the system, boot, install 185.25 drivers again, checking:
Windows ( in the device manager) showing 3 x GTX 260.OK. Launching nTune, as well, as GPU-Z. Both are reporting about 3 x GTX 260. OK. GPU frequencies, as well, as memory timings are adjustable on all 3 GTX 260. Seems, normal working behaviour.
Launching BOIC. BOIC is reporting about just two of GTX 260 cards & both are not reguesting any WU, just sitting in the sockets. Only rooling back to old BOIC 6.5.0 in combination with 185.25 drivers return system to normal behaviour ( two GPU's are working). No chance to push third GTX 260 to work.
Haven't any idea, how to screw 6.6.36 with 190.38 cuda 2,3 drivers into the system.
Having serious need for you support \ advices, any direct recommendations \ ideas, what could caused this behaviour ? What should I change in system ?

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Message 12006 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 8:13:21 UTC - in response to Message 12005.
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HI Jet,
I am sure that people will be able to help. However, the fact that suggested client changed did not mean that you could not crunch with the old one. Just you might miss out on some new features.
What client did you have before?
Do you know how to install the drivers?

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Message 12007 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 8:35:49 UTC

First one finished and reported, and the new app seems to be slightly slower than previously.

If you look at the full task list for the host, you can see it's got seven GIANNI_BIND tasks currently showing. The latest cuda23 task is the only one showing more than 50,000 seconds elapsed: five others were in the 49,000 range, and one in the 48,000 range. So not a big difference, but (with a sample point of one!) a move in the wrong direction.

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Message 12008 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 9:25:42 UTC - in response to Message 12003.

I believe you are correct, I set to stock speeds and it is running good now.

Mark Henderson, your case seem to be due to overclocking.
It's not the error FFT or PME related.

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Message 12010 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 9:48:19 UTC - in response to Message 12006.

Dear GDF,

My current client is 6.5.0, with previous driver version 185.25.
I know., how to install drivers. Does your question means, that you will recommend to make complete drivers uninstall & make a "clera" install again ?
Basically I've two key targets:
1. To install 3-rd GTX 260 & make it running with GPUGRID.
2. To make it works ( both 3 GTX 260) under newest versions of BOINC \ CUDA drivers.

Any suggestions are highly appreciated !
Thanks in advance,

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Message 12013 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 12:45:08 UTC - in response to Message 12004.

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1137304

Bymark,
which result did error out for you?

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Message 12016 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 14:06:24 UTC - in response to Message 12013.

my wu completed last night...

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Message 12025 - Posted: 21 Aug 2009 | 21:53:25 UTC

Jet, getting multiple GPUs to work can generally be tricky and is unrelated to the current problems. Sorry, can't give you more help on that right now. The other problem you're seeing, i.e. the strange behaviour of 6.6.36.. is by design. It's asking all projects for CPU and CUDA work (the Devs figured this wouldn't matter) and it can be quite picky about which tasks it actually starts. If you want to give it another try you should reset your debts upon installation of the 6.6.x version (otherwise it might screw things up.. do you know how to do this?) and if BOINC still refuses to start the GPU-Grid WUs you can suspend all other projects. Then hopefully BOINC will decide to keep your GPUs busy.

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Message 12031 - Posted: 22 Aug 2009 | 4:02:05 UTC - in response to Message 12025.

FYI Driver 190.62 released on Aug 21.

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Message 12032 - Posted: 22 Aug 2009 | 6:23:51 UTC - in response to Message 12025.

ETA, thanks for advices. You are totally right, running multiple GPU's is a real challenge, in my case it just make it even more interesting.
Anyhow, I would continue attempts to push all GPU's running together for GPUGRID.
Basic action plan (:-) is exactly, as you described, to start it again, practically from scratch, consequentially, clean install etc.
Thanks for the ideas,

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Message 12033 - Posted: 22 Aug 2009 | 7:13:54 UTC - in response to Message 12031.

FYI Driver 190.62 released on Aug 21.


But does it work?

With a GTX260 and GPUgrid?
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testing it as we speak, and which crackhead had them change the number of task in queue????? i liked it at 2.

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Message 12047 - Posted: 22 Aug 2009 | 21:20:06 UTC - in response to Message 11973.
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We have now selectively assigning a cuda2.3 application to people with a 190 driver only. This is a test. We keep it on if it does not give problems.
It should be transparent to older driver users.

You need a recent BOINC version to receive the new application.
Only for Windows so far.

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Where do you get the 190 drivers? I just upgraded to BOINC 6.6.36 as requested, so where do I find the new driver?

Windows Vista 64 SP2 with a 9800 GT

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Message 12048 - Posted: 22 Aug 2009 | 21:50:58 UTC - in response to Message 12047.

We have now selectively assigning a cuda2.3 application to people with a 190 driver only. This is a test. We keep it on if it does not give problems.
It should be transparent to older driver users.

You need a recent BOINC version to receive the new application.
Only for Windows so far.

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Where do you get the 190 drivers? I just upgraded to BOINC 6.6.36 as requested, so where do I find the new driver?

Windows Vista 64 SP2 with a 9800 GT


nvidia.com

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Message 12049 - Posted: 22 Aug 2009 | 23:11:02 UTC - in response to Message 12048.

nvidia.com

More specifically, the Nvidia driver download page.

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Message 12051 - Posted: 22 Aug 2009 | 23:48:28 UTC - in response to Message 11745.

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1145066

wu with 190.62 complete.

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Message 12054 - Posted: 23 Aug 2009 | 0:59:18 UTC - in response to Message 11973.

We have now selectively assigning a cuda2.3 application to people with a 190 driver only. This is a test. We keep it on if it does not give problems.
It should be transparent to older driver users.

You need a recent BOINC version to receive the new application.
Only for Windows so far.

gdf


Just to make life interesting I updated the drivers to 190.62 yesterday and BOINC 6.10.0 the day before (can't get more recent that that).

BOINC seems to be working fine and the 190.62 drivers seem okay with Seti and cuda 2.3, so figured its time to re-test GPUgrid with the new driver. The machine has dual GTX260's. It just downloaded the cuda 2.3 app and 5 wu. I will report back once they are done.
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Message 12060 - Posted: 23 Aug 2009 | 13:45:32 UTC - in response to Message 12054.

We have now selectively assigning a cuda2.3 application to people with a 190 driver only. This is a test. We keep it on if it does not give problems.
It should be transparent to older driver users.

You need a recent BOINC version to receive the new application.
Only for Windows so far.

gdf


Just to make life interesting I updated the drivers to 190.62 yesterday and BOINC 6.10.0 the day before (can't get more recent that that).

BOINC seems to be working fine and the 190.62 drivers seem okay with Seti and cuda 2.3, so figured its time to re-test GPUgrid with the new driver. The machine has dual GTX260's. It just downloaded the cuda 2.3 app and 5 wu. I will report back once they are done.


Well 3 failed, 1 worked and 1 more is still running (currently on 80%). Links to failed wu:
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Message 12061 - Posted: 23 Aug 2009 | 17:43:22 UTC - in response to Message 12025.

So, there is short story:
1. Using Zydor's advice, all nVidia drivers was uninstalled ( with Driver Sweeper).
2. Old version BOINC (6.5.0) was replaced by new one 6.10.0.
3. New driver (198.38 CUDA 2,3) was installed, according to the Zydor's methologie (under safe mode). Due to the fact, that nVidia's web site is down over 12 hours, was unable to get more recent driver version (198.62, for example.
4. A cc_config.xtml was added to use all gpu's.
5. First attempt with total new software brings practically zero result, I was unable to use 3 GPU's, BOIC was showing just two of them. Device manager, nVtune & GPU-Z still shows 3 GPU's. Kind'a tricky, yeh.
6. Decided to make some relocation of GPU's on the MoBo (ASUS WS Evolution, having 4 PCI-E slots). After movement of GTX 260 to another slot (closer to other GTX), strated BOINC again & suddenly found, that all GTX 260 is in the system & recognized by BOINC. Very happy. That means, that PCI-E IRQ (or else) distribution managed by MoBo is quite important for systems with multiple GPU's.
7.So, get a couple of WU's, crunching with new system less than a day. Almostcompleted 6 WU's up to now, looks, that most running fine.
Having a very strong feeling, that new system ( driver, BOIC & 3 x GTX 260) is a little slower at the moment. New drivers ? More "heavy" contemporary WU's ? I don't know exctly.

So, the first battle result is acceptable. Let's look into the future.

Thanks for the advices & support. Special thanks to Zydor!

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Message 12072 - Posted: 24 Aug 2009 | 7:48:34 UTC - in response to Message 12060.

We have now selectively assigning a cuda2.3 application to people with a 190 driver only. This is a test. We keep it on if it does not give problems.
It should be transparent to older driver users.

You need a recent BOINC version to receive the new application.
Only for Windows so far.

gdf


Just to make life interesting I updated the drivers to 190.62 yesterday and BOINC 6.10.0 the day before (can't get more recent that that).

BOINC seems to be working fine and the 190.62 drivers seem okay with Seti and cuda 2.3, so figured its time to re-test GPUgrid with the new driver. The machine has dual GTX260's. It just downloaded the cuda 2.3 app and 5 wu. I will report back once they are done.


Well 3 failed, 1 worked and 1 more is still running (currently on 80%). Links to failed wu:
1st
2nd
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Last one failed too. It can be found here

I did uninstall drivers before upgrade. However driver sweeper failed (gave a memory address error) when I tried it (a couple of times).

After driver install both GTX260 are seen by BOINC without the need for a cc_config as they are identical cards.
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Message 12082 - Posted: 24 Aug 2009 | 16:54:15 UTC - in response to Message 12061.

Hi,

where did you find boinc 6.10.0? The highest version, that is offered, is 6.6.36 at http://boinc.berkeley.edu

I've also tried to install drivers 190.62, but WU's fail after 10 to 15%.

Vista64, E8400, 6GB, GTX260 and a lot of troubles.

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Message 12086 - Posted: 24 Aug 2009 | 21:03:02 UTC - in response to Message 12082.
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Have a look in http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/ for Boinc manager 6.10.

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Message 12092 - Posted: 25 Aug 2009 | 1:57:26 UTC

Another two broken Wus...

http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1153163
http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1153166
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Message 12100 - Posted: 25 Aug 2009 | 12:44:30 UTC - in response to Message 12092.

Sorry I'm reverting to the 18x drivers as I'm having too many problems with the 190.x dropping into power save mode and staying there, getting such poor performance is killling any gameplay.

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Message 12101 - Posted: 25 Aug 2009 | 12:46:16 UTC - in response to Message 12100.

Important. Anyone is welcome to revert to older drivers. We are just trying to give you the possibility to use the new drivers if it's good for gaming for instance.

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Message 12102 - Posted: 25 Aug 2009 | 13:17:01 UTC - in response to Message 12101.

The problem is under 18x drivers I get no WUs with the error about needing 190.38 or better for CUDA 2.3

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Message 12105 - Posted: 25 Aug 2009 | 14:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 12102.
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You need at least 185, the error message is misleading.
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Message 12106 - Posted: 25 Aug 2009 | 15:35:59 UTC - in response to Message 11907.

Surely I have cuda 2.3

And I have always the same errors like other drivers sup than 182.5 ---->
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_1 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_2 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent
14/08/2009 21:59:47 GPUGRID Output file 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0_3 for task 52-KASHIF_HIVPR_sub_so_ba1-15-100-RND7514_0 absent


I try the 190.62 and always these message. I return all my wus bad.

And now I cant work for this project with 182.5. they are incompatible.

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Message 12108 - Posted: 25 Aug 2009 | 16:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 12105.

You need at least 185, the error message is misleading.
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I was on (and am again) running 186.06, I'll see gow things are tomorow when I sould get new WUs

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Message 12125 - Posted: 26 Aug 2009 | 8:35:06 UTC - in response to Message 12108.

Now you should be able to run again drivers 182.xx.
However, please confirm that 182.xx does work.
Also the error message should be now more appropriate.

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Message 12130 - Posted: 26 Aug 2009 | 13:43:34 UTC - in response to Message 12125.

The 186.08 (sorry not .06 I think I must need new glasses) are working fine now. No sign of the downclocking or crashed WUs the 190s were giving.

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Message 12151 - Posted: 27 Aug 2009 | 15:23:00 UTC

One guy (svol) from team "Russia" said that he's OK with 190.xx driver and GTX260. I'll try to get a couple Wus for testing...
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Message 12152 - Posted: 27 Aug 2009 | 16:15:00 UTC

GDF,

I have a machine, 20013, that refused to run on anything in the 185.xx and higher series. It has an factory OC eVGA 260-216. I backed it off to 182.50 and so far, it appears to be working. I did this yesterday and will report how it runs for longer term. I originally had this on driver 182.06 and it ran fine there. I only moved it when it didn't work with 182.06 anymore. This machine went through the 2.2 upgrade with the old driver, during the period where you guys were still sending out work it could crunch.

I'm happy the Grid went back to allowing 182.xx machines back into the game. I was thinking I would have to drop off the Grid with this one...

I'm also having a side issue of the newer (185.xx and above) drivers not working through the KVM on my farm. They come up with a blank screen. Driver 182.50 works fine.

The farm is running a mix of 185.85, 190.38, and 190.62. I have a workaround which involves plugging the monitor directly into the machine during boot, then putting it back through the KVM when it's up. This is a PITA, but it works.

Let's hope that nVidia gets it together soon...

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Message 12153 - Posted: 27 Aug 2009 | 16:17:42 UTC - in response to Message 12151.

One guy (svol) from team "Russia" said that he's OK with 190.xx driver and GTX260. I'll try to get a couple Wus for testing...

I have a GTX 260 with v190.62 drivers and BOINC v6.10.1 that's been running with no problems (14 WUs and counting). It's a clean install of WinXP32, so YMMV.

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Message 12167 - Posted: 27 Aug 2009 | 23:02:08 UTC
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So, another one broken WU...

28.08.2009 4:42:29 GPUGRID Computation for task p335000-IBUCH_r_pYEEI_us5xy1_2408-3-5-RND3015_0 finished
28.08.2009 4:42:31 GPUGRID Output file p335000-IBUCH_r_pYEEI_us5xy1_2408-3-5-RND3015_0_1 for task p335000-IBUCH_r_pYEEI_us5xy1_2408-3-5-RND3015_0 absent
28.08.2009 4:42:31 GPUGRID Output file p335000-IBUCH_r_pYEEI_us5xy1_2408-3-5-RND3015_0_2 for task p335000-IBUCH_r_pYEEI_us5xy1_2408-3-5-RND3015_0 absent
28.08.2009 4:42:31 GPUGRID Output file p335000-IBUCH_r_pYEEI_us5xy1_2408-3-5-RND3015_0_3 for task p335000-IBUCH_r_pYEEI_us5xy1_2408-3-5-RND3015_0 absent
28.08.2009 4:42:34 GPUGRID Started upload of p335000-IBUCH_r_pYEEI_us5xy1_2408-3-5-RND3015_0_0
28.08.2009 4:42:44 GPUGRID Finished upload of p335000-IBUCH_r_pYEEI_us5xy1_2408-3-5-RND3015_0_0


But why it exited after 5+hours of computing?

I'll try now newest BM and drivers, if it applicable to Win 7 x64...
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Message 12176 - Posted: 28 Aug 2009 | 6:41:01 UTC - in response to Message 12167.

This seem a case of instability in the hardware. Maybe you were playing a game that finished the available video RAM or again overclocking (don't know if this is your case).

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Message 12236 - Posted: 31 Aug 2009 | 13:29:23 UTC

Well, I have another error. now without gaming (and USING desktop at all!) while computing, without overclocking, with 85% of MAX GPU cooler speed, with 190.62 video driver (BM 6.6.37). As usually, Win 7 Ultimate x64.

Now I've got another WU, 'cause BM 6.10.1 is installed. Let's see, what will happen...

I'll make it work even if it will require a very old driver...
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Message 12240 - Posted: 31 Aug 2009 | 20:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 12236.

I'll make it work even if it will require a very old driver...


OT:
That's what I'm doing with Milkyway@ATI right now. I can't get the newer drivers to work and am thus stuck with the rather old 8.12 (=last Nov) under Win 7 Prof. That kind of works, but rewards me with plenty of blue screens..
Sorry for the OT, it's just a little frustrating.

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Message 12242 - Posted: 31 Aug 2009 | 21:34:51 UTC - in response to Message 12125.

Now you should be able to run again drivers 182.xx.
However, please confirm that 182.xx does work.
Also the error message should be now more appropriate.

gdf

Indeed
I reinstalled 182.5, And it work again.

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Message 12246 - Posted: 1 Sep 2009 | 1:10:03 UTC

No, using BM 6.10.1 x64 did not help. Win 7 Ult., 190.62.

Old drivers are being loaded...
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Message 12254 - Posted: 1 Sep 2009 | 11:44:34 UTC

An old driver is installed:

01.09.2009 8:51:12 NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 260 (driver version 18581, CUDA version 2020, compute capability 1.3, 896MB, est. 96GFLOPS)
01.09.2009 8:51:12 No CAL Runtime Libraries installed.

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