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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12761 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 4:51:27 UTC
	The last 2 WU have had a wall clock time of 25 & 30 hr. They used to be around 8 to 9 hr Running XP-Pro 64 Boinc 6.10.6 GTX-260 Cuda 2.3 Drivers 190.38 Is this what you are getting?
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GDF Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1957 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12780 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 7:48:58 UTC - in response to Message 12761.
	which ones, your computer is hidden. gdf
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12791 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 14:00:09 UTC - in response to Message 12780. Last modified: 26 Sep 2009 \| 14:03:13 UTC
	These are the ones. http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=798587 http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=798532 The next two that I have Downloaded are doing the sane thing http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=806024 I am 10hr into this one with 30% done
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12792 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 14:01:05 UTC - in response to Message 12780. Last modified: 26 Sep 2009 \| 14:05:29 UTC
	sorry for the double post Steve
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GDF Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1957 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12796 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 15:51:03 UTC - in response to Message 12792.
	it looks like that power managment is kicking in. A board is clocked at 0.60Ghz. Not quite what it should be. Maybe updating the driver would solve this. Also you have a linux machine with an old driver which you should update to a more recent one. At least 185.xx gdf
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Edboard Send message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12811 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 22:03:44 UTC - in response to Message 12796. Last modified: 26 Sep 2009 \| 22:05:29 UTC
	I have just received one unit with an expected time of 25:40 hours:min. Normally 8-9 hours in this computer ("IQS").
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GDF Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1957 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12814 - Posted: 27 Sep 2009 \| 0:42:41 UTC - in response to Message 12811.
	for the expected time you should not worry about. We have increased the expected flops to be closer to the real value, so the client thinks it will takes longer. It will adjust in a week or so. gdf
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12869 - Posted: 28 Sep 2009 \| 17:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 12796.
	it looks like that power managment is kicking in. A board is clocked at 0.60Ghz. Not quite what it should be. Maybe updating the driver would solve this. Also you have a linux machine with an old driver which you should update to a more recent one. At least 185.xx gdf Note: Moved the GPU from a Linux box to a XP Box So I upgraded drivers from 190.38 to 190.62 Wall Time 24:06 Run Time 25 min I suspended the current WU and started This WU with the upgraded Drivers http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1306052 What else can I do to get back to the 8-9 hr wall clock Time? Thanks Steve Win XP-Pro_64 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 (895MB) driver: 19062 Cuda 2.3 Boinc 6.10.6 ____________
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12877 - Posted: 28 Sep 2009 \| 22:57:50 UTC - in response to Message 12869. Last modified: 28 Sep 2009 \| 22:58:39 UTC
	it looks like that power managment is kicking in. A board is clocked at 0.60Ghz. Not quite what it should be. Maybe updating the driver would solve this. Also you have a linux machine with an old driver which you should update to a more recent one. At least 185.xx gdf Note: Moved the GPU from a Linux box to a XP Box So I upgraded drivers from 190.38 to 190.62 Wall Time 24hr 6 min .........................................edit Run Time 25 min I suspended the current WU and started This WU with the upgraded Drivers http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1306052 What else can I do to get back to the 8-9 hr wall clock Time? Thanks Steve Win XP-Pro_64 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 (895MB) driver: 19062 Cuda 2.3 Boinc 6.10.6
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12912 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009 \| 16:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 12877.
	OK This WU http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=804766 Wall Time 27+ hr Driver 190.38 for 1st 18hr Driver 190.62 for the rest To bring the Wall Clock Time down Should I roll back to a Driver 185.xx ? and / or roll back Cuda from 2.3 to 2.2 or 2.1 ? I am Lost as to I should do? Thanks for your help.
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GDF Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1957 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12914 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009 \| 17:23:43 UTC - in response to Message 12912.
	I don´t know what´s happening. Can anybody help? gdf
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12919 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009 \| 18:40:55 UTC
	My first thought is that you are getting the down-clock bug as noted by PoorBoy... Second, that the 6.6.20 extended run time bug is back ... Or both ... Is it happening consistenly? or just once in awhile? The first may be solved by lowering the driver version to the lowest acceptable. I have lost track of what that is sadly ... The second usually can be "cured" at least momentarily by stopping BOINC completely and starting it up again. I do NOT know that this is a hidden manefestation of 6.10.6 but that is a known bad version for other problems. So my FIRST suggestion is to up to 6.10.7 (leave the later versions alone they won't help with what we do on GPU Grid (yet)).
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12926 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009 \| 22:47:31 UTC - in response to Message 12919. Last modified: 29 Sep 2009 \| 22:49:46 UTC
	My first thought is that you are getting the down-clock bug as noted by PoorBoy... Second, that the 6.6.20 extended run time bug is back ... Or both ... Is it happening consistenly? or just once in awhile? Last 4 WU The first may be solved by lowering the driver version to the lowest acceptable. I have lost track of what that is sadly ... The second usually can be "cured" at least momentarily by stopping BOINC completely and starting it up again. I have tried that..... No help at all I do NOT know that this is a hidden manefestation of 6.10.6 but that is a known bad version for other problems. So my FIRST suggestion is to up to 6.10.7 (leave the later versions alone they won't help with what we do on GPU Grid (yet)). How would I do that ....... setup different directorys for 6.10.7 or just uninstall boinc 6.10.6 and install 6.10.7 ? And what about cuda keep 2.3 or should I go back to 2.2 or 2.1? I have a bunch of Colatz-Conjecture WU to finish fist then will try GPUGRID again Thank for your advise Steve
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12929 - Posted: 30 Sep 2009 \| 1:16:39 UTC - in response to Message 12926.
	How would I do that ....... setup different directorys for 6.10.7 or just uninstall boinc 6.10.6 and install 6.10.7 ? Try one thing at a time. First I would install 6.10.7, I never uninstall, but, if that makes it better for you sure... If that changes nothing, then look at the drivers. I am running 190.38 and 190.62 I think on XP 32 ... but everyone seems to have different luck with the drivers so it is hard to say what is the best idea there ...
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12993 - Posted: 3 Oct 2009 \| 4:37:21 UTC - in response to Message 12929. Last modified: 3 Oct 2009 \| 4:40:41 UTC
	How would I do that ....... setup different directorys for 6.10.7 or just uninstall boinc 6.10.6 and install 6.10.7 ? Try one thing at a time. First I would install 6.10.7, I never uninstall, but, if that makes it better for you sure... If that changes nothing, then look at the drivers. I am running 190.38 and 190.62 I think on XP 32 ... but everyone seems to have different luck with the drivers so it is hard to say what is the best idea there ... Thank you for your help ..... Paul D. Buck & GDF WU http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=824961 Wall Time about 8 hr 8-9 hr wall time is what I started out with. Then it jumped up to 25 - 30 hr after upgrading. With GDF & Paul's help I am back to 8+ hr on the first WU. My current setup is: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 cores) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX-260 (895MB) Drivers: 190.62 Cuda: 2.3 OS: XP-Pro_64 SP2 Memory: 8181.18 MB Boinc 6.10.7 I hope the above setup will Help others. Again, Thanks for your Help Steve Martin @ SETI.USA ____________
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12995 - Posted: 3 Oct 2009 \| 8:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 12993.
	Thank you for your help ..... Paul D. Buck & GDF You're welcome ... :) Good news is what we live for ... Keep an eye on it, sometimes there are other things going on. Some cards start down-clocking or going into power saving modes ... so there could still be issues. But, slow changes is usually the best thing. If you watch you can see I usually will make a comment when I am about to try a new version that I think has sufficient changes to make it worth while to risk ... then a week or so later I will say that it may be worth the risk if you have certain known problems to upgrade ... and it is usually a month before I will start to say that this is a stable version ... Slow changes ... :) And upgrading for the sake of upgrading is rarely worth the risk...
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12761 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 4:51:27 UTC
	The last 2 WU have had a wall clock time of 25 & 30 hr. They used to be around 8 to 9 hr Running XP-Pro 64 Boinc 6.10.6 GTX-260 Cuda 2.3 Drivers 190.38 Is this what you are getting?
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GDF Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1957 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12780 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 7:48:58 UTC - in response to Message 12761.
	which ones, your computer is hidden. gdf
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12791 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 14:00:09 UTC - in response to Message 12780. Last modified: 26 Sep 2009 \| 14:03:13 UTC
	These are the ones. http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=798587 http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=798532 The next two that I have Downloaded are doing the sane thing http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=806024 I am 10hr into this one with 30% done
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12792 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 14:01:05 UTC - in response to Message 12780. Last modified: 26 Sep 2009 \| 14:05:29 UTC
	sorry for the double post Steve
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GDF Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1957 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12796 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 15:51:03 UTC - in response to Message 12792.
	it looks like that power managment is kicking in. A board is clocked at 0.60Ghz. Not quite what it should be. Maybe updating the driver would solve this. Also you have a linux machine with an old driver which you should update to a more recent one. At least 185.xx gdf
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Edboard Send message Joined: 24 Sep 08 Posts: 72 Credit: 12,410,275 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12811 - Posted: 26 Sep 2009 \| 22:03:44 UTC - in response to Message 12796. Last modified: 26 Sep 2009 \| 22:05:29 UTC
	I have just received one unit with an expected time of 25:40 hours:min. Normally 8-9 hours in this computer ("IQS").
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GDF Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1957 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12814 - Posted: 27 Sep 2009 \| 0:42:41 UTC - in response to Message 12811.
	for the expected time you should not worry about. We have increased the expected flops to be closer to the real value, so the client thinks it will takes longer. It will adjust in a week or so. gdf
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12869 - Posted: 28 Sep 2009 \| 17:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 12796.
	it looks like that power managment is kicking in. A board is clocked at 0.60Ghz. Not quite what it should be. Maybe updating the driver would solve this. Also you have a linux machine with an old driver which you should update to a more recent one. At least 185.xx gdf Note: Moved the GPU from a Linux box to a XP Box So I upgraded drivers from 190.38 to 190.62 Wall Time 24:06 Run Time 25 min I suspended the current WU and started This WU with the upgraded Drivers http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1306052 What else can I do to get back to the 8-9 hr wall clock Time? Thanks Steve Win XP-Pro_64 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 (895MB) driver: 19062 Cuda 2.3 Boinc 6.10.6 ____________
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12877 - Posted: 28 Sep 2009 \| 22:57:50 UTC - in response to Message 12869. Last modified: 28 Sep 2009 \| 22:58:39 UTC
	it looks like that power managment is kicking in. A board is clocked at 0.60Ghz. Not quite what it should be. Maybe updating the driver would solve this. Also you have a linux machine with an old driver which you should update to a more recent one. At least 185.xx gdf Note: Moved the GPU from a Linux box to a XP Box So I upgraded drivers from 190.38 to 190.62 Wall Time 24hr 6 min .........................................edit Run Time 25 min I suspended the current WU and started This WU with the upgraded Drivers http://www.gpugrid.net/result.php?resultid=1306052 What else can I do to get back to the 8-9 hr wall clock Time? Thanks Steve Win XP-Pro_64 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 (895MB) driver: 19062 Cuda 2.3 Boinc 6.10.6
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12912 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009 \| 16:55:28 UTC - in response to Message 12877.
	OK This WU http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=804766 Wall Time 27+ hr Driver 190.38 for 1st 18hr Driver 190.62 for the rest To bring the Wall Clock Time down Should I roll back to a Driver 185.xx ? and / or roll back Cuda from 2.3 to 2.2 or 2.1 ? I am Lost as to I should do? Thanks for your help.
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GDF Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project tester Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Project scientist Send message Joined: 14 Mar 07 Posts: 1957 Credit: 629,356 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12914 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009 \| 17:23:43 UTC - in response to Message 12912.
	I don´t know what´s happening. Can anybody help? gdf
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12919 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009 \| 18:40:55 UTC
	My first thought is that you are getting the down-clock bug as noted by PoorBoy... Second, that the 6.6.20 extended run time bug is back ... Or both ... Is it happening consistenly? or just once in awhile? The first may be solved by lowering the driver version to the lowest acceptable. I have lost track of what that is sadly ... The second usually can be "cured" at least momentarily by stopping BOINC completely and starting it up again. I do NOT know that this is a hidden manefestation of 6.10.6 but that is a known bad version for other problems. So my FIRST suggestion is to up to 6.10.7 (leave the later versions alone they won't help with what we do on GPU Grid (yet)).
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12926 - Posted: 29 Sep 2009 \| 22:47:31 UTC - in response to Message 12919. Last modified: 29 Sep 2009 \| 22:49:46 UTC
	My first thought is that you are getting the down-clock bug as noted by PoorBoy... Second, that the 6.6.20 extended run time bug is back ... Or both ... Is it happening consistenly? or just once in awhile? Last 4 WU The first may be solved by lowering the driver version to the lowest acceptable. I have lost track of what that is sadly ... The second usually can be "cured" at least momentarily by stopping BOINC completely and starting it up again. I have tried that..... No help at all I do NOT know that this is a hidden manefestation of 6.10.6 but that is a known bad version for other problems. So my FIRST suggestion is to up to 6.10.7 (leave the later versions alone they won't help with what we do on GPU Grid (yet)). How would I do that ....... setup different directorys for 6.10.7 or just uninstall boinc 6.10.6 and install 6.10.7 ? And what about cuda keep 2.3 or should I go back to 2.2 or 2.1? I have a bunch of Colatz-Conjecture WU to finish fist then will try GPUGRID again Thank for your advise Steve
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12929 - Posted: 30 Sep 2009 \| 1:16:39 UTC - in response to Message 12926.
	How would I do that ....... setup different directorys for 6.10.7 or just uninstall boinc 6.10.6 and install 6.10.7 ? Try one thing at a time. First I would install 6.10.7, I never uninstall, but, if that makes it better for you sure... If that changes nothing, then look at the drivers. I am running 190.38 and 190.62 I think on XP 32 ... but everyone seems to have different luck with the drivers so it is hard to say what is the best idea there ...
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Steve_Martin@SETI.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 07 Posts: 10 Credit: 3,086,717 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12993 - Posted: 3 Oct 2009 \| 4:37:21 UTC - in response to Message 12929. Last modified: 3 Oct 2009 \| 4:40:41 UTC
	How would I do that ....... setup different directorys for 6.10.7 or just uninstall boinc 6.10.6 and install 6.10.7 ? Try one thing at a time. First I would install 6.10.7, I never uninstall, but, if that makes it better for you sure... If that changes nothing, then look at the drivers. I am running 190.38 and 190.62 I think on XP 32 ... but everyone seems to have different luck with the drivers so it is hard to say what is the best idea there ... Thank you for your help ..... Paul D. Buck & GDF WU http://www.gpugrid.net/workunit.php?wuid=824961 Wall Time about 8 hr 8-9 hr wall time is what I started out with. Then it jumped up to 25 - 30 hr after upgrading. With GDF & Paul's help I am back to 8+ hr on the first WU. My current setup is: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 cores) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX-260 (895MB) Drivers: 190.62 Cuda: 2.3 OS: XP-Pro_64 SP2 Memory: 8181.18 MB Boinc 6.10.7 I hope the above setup will Help others. Again, Thanks for your Help Steve Martin @ SETI.USA ____________
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Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 9 Jun 08 Posts: 1050 Credit: 37,321,185 RAC: 0 Level Scientific publications	Message 12995 - Posted: 3 Oct 2009 \| 8:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 12993.
	Thank you for your help ..... Paul D. Buck & GDF You're welcome ... :) Good news is what we live for ... Keep an eye on it, sometimes there are other things going on. Some cards start down-clocking or going into power saving modes ... so there could still be issues. But, slow changes is usually the best thing. If you watch you can see I usually will make a comment when I am about to try a new version that I think has sufficient changes to make it worth while to risk ... then a week or so later I will say that it may be worth the risk if you have certain known problems to upgrade ... and it is usually a month before I will start to say that this is a stable version ... Slow changes ... :) And upgrading for the sake of upgrading is rarely worth the risk...
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