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Message 19788 - Posted: 7 Dec 2010 | 11:27:12 UTC

While happy with my MSI GTX460 Cyclone SOC 1GB, any thoughts on the validity/performance in GPUGRID computing for this product:

http://wccftech.com/2010/11/14/nvidia-geforce-gtx-570-gtx-560-released/

Another card which is likely to be available early next year is the GTX 560 which will replace the much successful GTx 460 GPU based on the GF-104 Core. The new GPU Core will be the GF-114 and will also be a refined version of the previous generation core. The GF-104 Core itself was a vast improvement over the GF-100 Core which resulted in much better performance while utilizing lower power and resulting in lower temps. Same would be with the new Core. All of the eight 48-core SMs will be enabled on the card which will provide 384 Cuda Cores as compared to the 336 of the GTX 460.


I was considering adding a second GTX460 now, but this may be worth waiting for in improved performance. Thoughts? Pricing/market impact/purchase timing?

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Message 19790 - Posted: 7 Dec 2010 | 11:31:28 UTC - in response to Message 19788.

http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=2025

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Message 20183 - Posted: 18 Jan 2011 | 16:28:02 UTC - in response to Message 19790.

A GTX560 is supposed to be released next week, 25th Jan.

Just remember at GPUGrid a GTX470 would do 30% more work and a GTX480 would do 60% more than a GTX560. So for now, those primarily looking to get an NVidia GPU to crunch at GPUGrid should still be thinking of a GTX570. Note there will be lots of variation for this card. If the GTX570 is too expensive, wait; prices will eventually fall. Along with ATI competition, the GTX560 and planned GTX590 (at least by one GPU manufacturer) should help drive the GTX570 prices down and I'm still hoping a GTX565 will turn up.

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Message 20269 - Posted: 28 Jan 2011 | 21:50:11 UTC
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They are out now, although stock may be limited to start with. Pricing looks like arouund $210 (AUD).

Palit have a sonic edition (factory OC'ed) that has a dual fan solution, rather than the reference design. Link here

They are using the GF114 which is a new chip, so no idea how they go at GPUgrid work. Spec's wise they look quite impressive for the price. They have a 256 bit memory controller, 1Gb RAM, 384 cuda cores (aka shaders) with 32 SM's. Anyone tried one on here on here yet?
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Message 20274 - Posted: 29 Jan 2011 | 11:37:52 UTC - in response to Message 20269.

I expect 1/3 of the shaders will not be usable, as with the GTX460. Ignoring any other changes and just going by frequency and shader count a GTX560 should be about 40% faster than a GTX460; (384/336)X(822/675)x100%=1.3917
The TDP is 170W, 20W higher than the GTX460-768

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Message 20279 - Posted: 29 Jan 2011 | 12:20:43 UTC - in response to Message 20274.
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I expect 1/3 of the shaders will not be usable, as with the GTX460. Ignoring any other changes and just going by frequency and shader count a GTX560 should be about 40% faster than a GTX460; (384/336)X(822/675)x100%=1.3917
The TDP is 170W, 20W higher than the GTX460-768


Unlike the 460 they have the same SM to shader ratio as a GTX570, so they should actually be usable. But until someone runs GPUgrid on it we'll never know for sure.

The Palit card I referred to has the thing clocked higher (900Mhz) than a GTX570 reference design, that should make up a bit for lack of shaders. That and we're comparing a GF114 with a GF110, so its like comparing apples with oranges.

Gigabyte also have a factory OC'ed GTX560 Ti SOC that is clocked at 1000Mhz, again with a dual fan cooling solution. Uses 195w at full load.
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Message 20287 - Posted: 30 Jan 2011 | 9:00:47 UTC - in response to Message 20279.

While I speculate on reference design performance to some extent, what we have known for some time is that the GTX560 has 384 cuda cores (shaders) but only 8 SMs, giving it a 48/1 ratio, the same ratio as the GTX460 (7 SMs), GTS450 (4 SMs) and numerous GT400 OEM cards (from 3 SMs down to 1); so the GTX560 is not like a GTX570 which has 15 SMs and a 32/1 ratio. The performance gulf between the cards is massive.

GPUGrid crunchers should get a GTX570 and avoid the GTX560, GTS550 and any other 48/1 (shader to SM) ratio cards that follow.

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Message 20343 - Posted: 4 Feb 2011 | 16:19:44 UTC

I have got GTX 560Ti and sever answered
"GPUGRID Message from server: Fermi-class GPU not supported by cuda2.2"
XP 64bit drivers 266.66, ID 31329 Do not know what to do, any idea?


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Message 20344 - Posted: 4 Feb 2011 | 18:59:44 UTC - in response to Message 20343.

Hello: 266.66 driver is actually the 265 with arrangements to work with the new 560Ti not be if this could be the problem. Best regards.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64-266.66-whql-driver.html

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Message 20345 - Posted: 4 Feb 2011 | 19:39:43 UTC - in response to Message 20344.
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Yes, the 266.66 is the only one for 560Ti, Einstein CUDA 3.2 task run, PG tpsieve CUDA 2.3 too (manual PSA). Other drivers did not find a GPU.
OK now got two tasks.

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