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Message 55415 - Posted: 3 Oct 2020 | 16:51:11 UTC

Hey, i´m using the Worldcommunity Boinc version and added GPUGrid, with my 1080TI it was working fine but my new GPU just never even gets to 1%. My GPU is stable in all Benchmarks/Games i know.
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Message 55416 - Posted: 3 Oct 2020 | 18:06:51 UTC - in response to Message 55415.

You need to remove that host from GPUGrid. There is no application support yet for the Nvidia 3000 series cards. All tasks error out immediately.

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Message 55417 - Posted: 3 Oct 2020 | 22:11:13 UTC - in response to Message 55416.

Ok, thanks. Thats sad.

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Message 55418 - Posted: 4 Oct 2020 | 2:14:55 UTC - in response to Message 55417.

Watch for a post from Toni in the News section for when a new application is available that supports Ampere cards.

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Message 55606 - Posted: 15 Oct 2020 | 13:49:50 UTC - in response to Message 55417.

exact same for me.

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Message 55607 - Posted: 15 Oct 2020 | 14:37:37 UTC - in response to Message 55606.

exact same for me.

as was mentioned previously, the app here currently is not compiled to be compatible with the Ampere cards.

the app needs to be updated for compatibility with the new cards. You wont be able to crunch for GPUGRID on Ampere cards until the app is updated.
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Message 55610 - Posted: 15 Oct 2020 | 16:16:26 UTC - in response to Message 55607.

exact same for me.

as was mentioned previously, the app here currently is not compiled to be compatible with the Ampere cards.

the app needs to be updated for compatibility with the new cards. You wont be able to crunch for GPUGRID on Ampere cards until the app is updated.

When we hit the licensing snag a hew days ago, Toni indicated to me privately that he intended "to play with the 30xx series". No timescale indicated, and the app would appear as a Beta app first. Watch that space.

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Message 55733 - Posted: 13 Nov 2020 | 2:19:57 UTC - in response to Message 55610.

I hope the beta app come soon, I'm dying to see what the Ampere are capable of.
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Message 55734 - Posted: 13 Nov 2020 | 2:23:22 UTC - in response to Message 55733.

I hope the beta app come soon, I'm dying to see what the Ampere are capable of.


me too. my 3070 is waiting.
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Message 55892 - Posted: 7 Dec 2020 | 13:11:41 UTC

The same happened when the 2080 cards came out until application support was created. I had lots of issues on many sites when the Turning cards first were released.
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Message 55975 - Posted: 10 Dec 2020 | 22:50:57 UTC

How long did it take to get apps for the Turing GPUs after they where released?

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Message 55976 - Posted: 10 Dec 2020 | 23:10:35 UTC - in response to Message 55975.
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How long did it take to get apps for the Turing GPUs after they where released?


Discussed in this post: http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=5159&nowrap=true#55373

The Turing App took longer as Project Admins changed the design of the App. Turing compatible App was the first Gpugrid app to use a Wrapper.

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Message 56610 - Posted: 18 Feb 2021 | 4:27:28 UTC - in response to Message 55734.

Mee too. RTX3070 in and waiting for some GPUGRID action..

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Message 56660 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021 | 16:18:21 UTC

I saw that Nvidia is going to introduce a new line of GPU products aimed at mining. At the same time they plan to adjust the drivers for RTX cards to make them much less suitable for mining. I would expect that this adjustment would have the same effect for computational computing.
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Message 56661 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021 | 16:24:59 UTC - in response to Message 56660.
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I saw that Nvidia is going to introduce a new line of GPU products aimed at mining. At the same time they plan to adjust the drivers for RTX cards to make them much less suitable for mining. I would expect that this adjustment would have the same effect for computational computing.


this should have no impact to the applications here. the new cards still wont work without an updated app, and the app doesnt need to be updated in any special way to account for these cards.

it just needs to be updated at all. currently all ampere cards are effectively locked out since it doesnt recognize the Ampere architecture (likely based on the gencodes baked into the app compilation). the current apps are only CUDA 10.0 (linux) and CUDA 10.1 (windows) which will only work with cards up to Turing. we need a CUDA 11.1 app for full support of the new cards.

the "driver" limit is also a bit of a half-truth. first, the limit only applies to the Ethereum algorithm. other algorithms (and likely any compute loads that aren't ETH-hash) are not affected by the limit, according to 3rd party testing from some folks who were able to get their hands on the cards pre-release. second, the cards do not require a new driver for the limit to be applied. the people who were able to do testing on some RTX 3060, indicated that the limit was still there even with the old drivers (release drivers are not available yet) which leads us to believe that there is some kind of limit baked in the VBIOS/firmware itself.
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Message 56662 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021 | 16:40:46 UTC

My GTX 1060 (Pascal) is faster than the GTX 1650 (Turing).I think because it uses more power. The 1650 uses very little power.
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Message 56663 - Posted: 22 Feb 2021 | 16:56:07 UTC - in response to Message 56662.

My GTX 1060 (Pascal) is faster than the GTX 1650 (Turing).I think because it uses more power. The 1650 uses very little power.
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not as much about power consumption. your 1060 (3GB) has 1152 cores, vs the 896 cores on the 1650. so 28.5% more cores on the 1060, but the GTX 1650 is more power efficient and gets more done per core/clock. so the fact that your 1060 is only about 10% faster overall while having almost 30% more cores, makes sense.
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Message 56825 - Posted: 7 Apr 2021 | 5:52:39 UTC - in response to Message 55610.

exact same for me.

as was mentioned previously, the app here currently is not compiled to be compatible with the Ampere cards.

the app needs to be updated for compatibility with the new cards. You wont be able to crunch for GPUGRID on Ampere cards until the app is updated.

When we hit the licensing snag a hew days ago, Toni indicated to me privately that he intended "to play with the 30xx series". No timescale indicated, and the app would appear as a Beta app first. Watch that space.

this was a posting from Richard Haselgrove on October 15, 2020 - i.e. half a year ago.

Are there any indications as to whether the app will be updated for Ampere in the near future?

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Message 56848 - Posted: 22 Apr 2021 | 6:56:25 UTC

Still no work for my 3080 :(
Well, other projects are happy about this, because they get more GPU power until GPUGrid can make use of the nVidia 3000 series.

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Message 56860 - Posted: 2 May 2021 | 0:54:44 UTC - in response to Message 55416.
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You need to remove that host from GPUGrid. There is no application support yet for the Nvidia 3000 series cards. All tasks error out immediately.

Looks like I'd better hold off on buying the RTX 3060 card I'm planning to have, then.

World Community Grid is already offering GPU versions of their Open Pandemics tasks, though.

https://join.worldcommunitygrid.org?recruiterId=480838

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Message 56862 - Posted: 2 May 2021 | 7:37:37 UTC - in response to Message 56860.


World Community Grid is already offering GPU versions of their Open Pandemics tasks, though.

https://join.worldcommunitygrid.org?recruiterId=480838

and they are working fantastically with Ampere cards

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Message 56863 - Posted: 3 May 2021 | 3:50:21 UTC

OpenPandemics GPU tasks take about 20 minutes on my GTX 1060 while Einstein@homw GW GPU tasks take about 30 minutes on my GTX 1650.
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Message 56913 - Posted: 29 May 2021 | 11:20:35 UTC - in response to Message 56660.

I saw that Nvidia is going to introduce a new line of GPU products aimed at mining. At the same time they plan to adjust the drivers for RTX cards to make them much less suitable for mining. I would expect that this adjustment would have the same effect for computational computing.
That's illegal. Microsoft is planning to also tamper with products consumers have already purchased. Expect an action against them from the Federal Trade Commission. So Nvidia sells their GPU chips to a card manufacturer and they in turn sell it to an end consumer. They have no right to then go and degrade the performance of the products they've already sold.

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Message 56917 - Posted: 29 May 2021 | 12:40:45 UTC - in response to Message 56913.

I saw that Nvidia is going to introduce a new line of GPU products aimed at mining. At the same time they plan to adjust the drivers for RTX cards to make them much less suitable for mining. I would expect that this adjustment would have the same effect for computational computing.
That's illegal. Microsoft is planning to also tamper with products consumers have already purchased. Expect an action against them from the Federal Trade Commission. So Nvidia sells their GPU chips to a card manufacturer and they in turn sell it to an end consumer. They have no right to then go and degrade the performance of the products they've already sold.


1. it's not illegal, even if they implement a driver update for existing cards (which they aren't doing, yet, but even in that case you're free to just... not use the new driver)
2. they are bringing out a NEW line of GPUs, new skus. the new skus have different features. same as what they did with the RTX3060. the new cards are being limited from the hardware, BIOS, and driver level from what I've read.


current rumors suggest that the 3080ti FE card (the founders edition from nvidia directly) will not have the hashrate limiter for Ethereum. but all the AIB cards will. nvidia is allowed to tell AIBs how to make their product since they are using nvidia's product and they have done this for years. if an AIB doesn't play ball with nvidia's wishes, nvidia can and will stop selling their GPUs to that AIB.
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Message 56922 - Posted: 29 May 2021 | 17:45:20 UTC - in response to Message 56917.

it's not illegal
It is a crime: https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/statutes
Please join me in filing a complaint against these perps: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/#/
Hopefully folks in the EU will do the same.

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Message 56924 - Posted: 30 May 2021 | 2:16:42 UTC - in response to Message 56922.

it's not illegal
It is a crime: https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/statutes
Please join me in filing a complaint against these perps: https://reportfraud.ftc.gov/#/
Hopefully folks in the EU will do the same.


Nothing in there says that a company can’t release a new product with different features.

None of this will matter for BOINC tho so unless you’re mining ethereum it makes no difference to you or anyone else on GPUGRID.

Good luck with your report. It won’t materialize into anything tho.
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Message 56932 - Posted: 5 Jun 2021 | 21:18:51 UTC

I'd rather file a complaint against the *coins being fraud in the sense of a snow ball scheme. Not 100% serious, but I really think we should not waste vaste ressources on this "proof by computational power".

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Message 57018 - Posted: 25 Jun 2021 | 6:51:15 UTC

Is there any update regarding nVidia Ampere Workunits??
My Ampere cards are getting bored -.-

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