Hi all :)

I'm a new in GPUGrid. I finish one WU, but servers say "Completed, too late to validate".
I start at 18 Jan 2010 23:39:23 UTC and finish at1 Feb 2010 18:46:14 UTC.
My notebook is:
GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5670 @ 1.80GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 13]
(2 processors)

and GPU is:
NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS (255MB) driver: 19038

Need of full capacity of my laptop sometimes and stop to work for a while.

My GPU is not the best one, I know that , but I want to share my resources.
Is a possible to get smaller WU or to enlarge deadline?

Thanks in advance! :)

My GPU is not the best one, I know that , but I want to share my resources.
Is a possible to get smaller WU or to enlarge deadline?

Hi Michael :)

Thanks for you answer.
I see that I have only one chance to join really to the project - to make WUs shorter.

I will wait for more info about that.

Tanks again.

Have you tried this card with with the new application version? It shortens the time considerably.

Einstein only uses about 20% of your GPU and needs a full CPU thread to process what they consider to be a GPU WU.
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Thanks - Steve

Try Einstein.

The general consensus among the professionals and the administrators of this site is that you dont use a laptop GPU, as it often causes serious hardware problems.

Just so you know, my Ion will now take between 4 and 5 days to complete a task running 24/7 and utilising an overclocked CPU. The GFlops rating is 40.

The GFlops rating of an 8400M is less, about 28 GLops. So the card will not finish in time!

I suggested Einstein for good reasons - I did not want him to fry his GPU.

As for dust, I use a Vacuum cleaner to suck any dust from the vents of all my systems, laptops or desktops.

My machine needs 10 hours to finish a task from GPUgrid. I agree with Vladimir, such tasks are too big for 5 days' deadline (and such deadline is too short at all, too short for supporting every project). My machine is "at work", it is NOT always running 24/7 and may be turned off for weekend (and weekends sometimes are longer than 2 days). Unfortunately, my attempt to support this project seems to be a headache...
GPUgrid is not for all, not for simple mortals like me. It is for computer-bourgeoisie :-) only...
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Each project has requirements and it is a delicate balance between the science of the project, the servers, the scientists, and the crunchers. The GPUGrid team is doing excellent work with the time, money, and resources available to them but ultimately they have to make decisions that are best for the project which are not necessarily what we as crunchers want. It is a privilege to participate, it is not a right and we all have to the freedom to choose. If your card can not crunch for two hours a day, you are correct, this may not be the best project for you to participate in. No hard feelings? it is just the technical requirements of the project.
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Thanks - Steve

Each project has requirements and it is a delicate balance between the science of the project, the servers, the scientists, and the crunchers.

What GPUGrid does (over simplified) is to look at atomic interactions in very very very samll fractions of seconds (femto to nano). Because the equation is very difficult to process it simply takes a lot of power and a lot of time. The GPUGrid project builds WU based on the results of previously executed WUs. If they increase the deadline too much it would be an very long time before they had any usable results at all. Once you start to stretch out the time between usable results you have to add more task streams which itself takes a lot more effort in every aspect including the number of WUs necessary to keep all streams populated. The increase of WU streams in turn will slow down the whole process. I am sure if it was as easy as adding another hard drive they would have done that already.

Maybe you could complete one or two WUs during the week and then set the PC to No New Work so you don't have any WUs left over for the weekends. If you start again on Monday you should be able to get a couple more finished by the end of the week. If this is too much effort I wish you the best in whatever project fits your needs.

Milkyway is solving a completly different equation where none of the results are based on previous WUs so comparing the two projects is not fair to either. Do you think MW really figured out how to increase their deadline and executed that plan overnight? I am sure they worked on it for a lot longer than that, it is just that you don't see any change in a project until it is complete.
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Thanks - Steve

Thank You, Steve! I understand, what is "immediate science goals", so my 1st reply here was a small frustration of novice, nothing more. Your advice is very good too. I think, I will use GPUgrid (this project is really worth to participate) for filling the gaps between SETI@home tasks.
Good luck!

skgiven
Thank You!
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Seriously though? my project said the same thing when I turned it in after 5 days. We aren't talking weeks, but days. How is that too long to wait? And what happens to the WUs we finish "too late" to get credit for? Our machines run for 5 days doing research for you and get zippo in return because 5 days is too long?

No offense, but this project seems to do everything possible to discourage contribution. From problems like this to links on the MAIN PAGE to inacurate posts which recomend specific video cards that are supposed to work but don't...
How many more people could be among the productive if they did not get frustrated and move on to a new project?

It would make more sense to have smaller work units so everyone could contribute. And they do exist--I have gotten jobs which say they will take 6 hours or 15 hours. And then I get one that says something ridiculous like 88 hours. Wouldn't it make more sense to send that kind of WU to someone with a $500 video card that can get it done in 5 hours? Or do the servers not know the specs/speed of the GPUs they are using?

Just some thoughts...

I must agree. It's getting harder & harder to participate in GPUGRID.net is this a rich people only club? I had an 8800GT that I could use last week, now I get the message GPU doesn't have enough memory. I know that 256MB isn't much, but I have a weird mainboard. It has a Geforce 9400 IGP. If I set it at 512MB I can only use the IGP. If I set it to 256MB it'll register the 9400IGP & the 8800GT, but just recently, GPUGRID.net reports that I don't have enough memory on my GPU, last week it was enough. It was really depressing, because I spent several days finding & installing the required drivers, finding the BOINC version that could detect both GPU's, find the correct setting in BOIS & Nvidia Control Panel, & now it's not good enough for GPUGRID.net because everybody has to have a GF100 or G200 to participate.
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The methodology this projects' scientists invented and the software they wrote to execute is very computationally intense. As mentioned in prior posts in this thread, this project builds WUs from the results of a previous WU so quick turnaround is paramount.

If the requirements for this project do not meet the hardware that you have, please, contribute what you can here and use your other hardware to further scienctific discoveries on other projects.

Best regards,
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Thanks - Steve

My next attempt to participate.
Q. What I found as NEW in the project?
A. New and heavy ACEMD2 tasks are at least 2 times bigger as previous tasks by the same deadline for only 5 days.
So, my GTS 250 is now too weak. Hopeless...
Bye... :-)
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Yes, ultra-heavy tasks and computation errors after hours of processing on my GPU.
See You later (maybe)... :-)
Good luck!

You ran one task.

The GTS250 is not a great card for crunching here.

Not only do computation times change, so does the data volume.

I'm just finishing off idc4-IBUCH_GCY_101021-4-200-RND2150, and I see that the main uploaded result file (_4) is 35,919 KB.

That doesn't matter to me - I'm on uncapped broadband, and it can take as long as it likes - but some people on expensive data tariffs might like to be warned in advance of changes like this.

Since the average WU time has increased greatly (close to double) I think the time allowed for the bonuses should be increased too. With a 4 hour queue a GT 240 can barely make the bonus deadline and the older cards are out of luck. Who thinks a bonus deadline increase is in order?

We can do smaller workunits, but then the deadline must be smaller too to keep the same pace, so it would not be of much help.