Message boards : Number crunching : Overclocking: what do I tweak first?
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I have my GTX 570 running on manual fan control and running between 40C and 50C so I want to try a little OC. I've read advice in these forums about what to tweak first and by how much but I can't find it or remember. Right now my clocks are: | |
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I have my GTX 570 running on manual fan control and running between 40C and 50C so I want to try a little OC. I've read advice in these forums about what to tweak first and by how much but I can't find it or remember. In this case use the "advanced search" function with no time limit. Right now my clocks are: Yes. Note that the Graphics and the Processor (aka shader) clocks are not independent, their ratio (x2) is fixed. What is a reasonable boost in my case... 1%, 2%, 10%? 10%-15% is a reasonable boost using the factory made cooling. And if tasks then start to fail one should tweak the memory clock up a wee bit too? No, the GPUGrid tasks are not GPU memory intensive, no gain in speed or stability could be achieved by increasing the graphics memory clock. You should increase the GPU voltage by 25mV when tasks start to fail, as long as your GPU temps are below 80°C (and you can tolerate the noise of the cooling). In the other case you should decrease the GPU clock by 10MHz. Or am I getting this confused with OCing CPUs (which I have never done either, btw, just read about it) Yes. Actually the increase of the memory clock is needed because the CPUs have so high CPU and memory multipliers, and it's practical to keep them as low as possible. (and the standard CPUs have a limit on these multipliers) I've also read here that it's difficult to regain time wasted by OCing too much and getting compute errors and results that won't verify so I intend to take this slowly and cautiously. That's the good approach. First you could increase your GPU clock rate by 10%, and the GPU voltage by 50mV. If it's stable, you can increase your GPU clock by 10MHz increments as long as it stays stable (crunches without errors for a week). Then you should follow the stability regain procedure I've described above. Note that different workunit batches tolerate different overclocking, so if your overclock settings have no "safety overhead" (ie. a little higher GPU voltage than needed, or a little lower GPU clock than the highest your GPU can run at the given voltage), then you should recalibrate your overclocking settings when tasks start to fail. | |
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How possible do you think overclocking is on a GTX 670, I've heard Nvidia locked the voltage. Is it better to simply run stock to avoid WU failures? | |
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OK, then the plan is as follows: First you could increase your GPU clock rate by 10%, and the GPU voltage by 50mV. If it's stable, you can increase your GPU clock by 10MHz increments as long as it stays stable (crunches without errors for a week). Then you should follow the stability regain procedure I've described above. Note that different workunit batches tolerate different overclocking, so if your overclock settings have no "safety overhead" (ie. a little higher GPU voltage than needed, or a little lower GPU clock than the highest your GPU can run at the given voltage), then you should recalibrate your overclocking settings when tasks start to fail. The only trouble is I cannot see how to adjust voltage. I am using Linux. I can see how one uses the nvidia-settings command plus appropriate options/arguments to query and adjust clocks and fan speed but I see nothing for voltage. I did the following 2 commands: nvidia-settings -q all | grep vcore I did nvidia-settings -q all > queries.txt and used the text editor to search for anything to do with volts and found nothing so... how do I adjust voltage. In this post Carlesa25 seems to say you need Coolbits 1 to adjust the voltage and Coolbits 4 to adjust the fan speed and that you cannot have Coolbits 1 and Coolbits 4 simultaneously. So I changed Coolbits 4 to Coolbits 1 and rebooted but still there is nothing in nvidia-settings -q all about voltage. How can I tweak the voltage? | |
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How possible do you think overclocking is on a GTX 670, I've heard Nvidia locked the voltage. Is it better to simply run stock to avoid WU failures? I'm a little confused about overclocking the GTX 670, because this series has a 'GPU power' measurement, and it's not clear to me what this measurement is about? I have two Asus GTX670-DC2OG-2GD5s, and a GigaByte GV-N670OC-2G. Both types are factory overclocked a little, the GigaByte has larger PCB, mostly because it has a more powerful PSU on board. According to the above, their 'GPU power' measurements are very different: 1. Asus GTX670-DC2OG-2GD5: GPU power: ____ 97%, core voltage: 1.175V, core clock: 1084MHz 2. Asus GTX670-DC2OG-2GD5: GPU power: 104-107%, core voltage: 1.162V, core clock: 1110MHz 3. GigaByte GV-N670OC-2G:_ GPU power: ____ 72%, core voltage: 1.175V, core clock: 1150MHz As you can see, according to the GigaByte's GPU power reading it's consuming much less than the Asus', while the chip used on these cards couldn't be different that much. So this reading must be the ratio of the available power from the PSU on the card and the power the chip is actually using. If this is correct, then a reading like 107% scares me :) and I don't want to overclock those cards. However, I've overclocked the GigaByte: 4. GigaByte GV-N670OC-2G:_ GPU power: ____ 75%, core voltage: 1.175V, core clock: 1240MHz While I've set the MSI Afterburner to raise the GPU voltage by 50mV, it didn't happened. Also, I've set +100MHz, and the real increase is only 90MHz, so I'm still a little confused. | |
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I thought it was a percentage of the TDP, however I wasn't sure if it was a percentage of the reference value or the bespoke GPU's value (which I don't know anyway)! I can't imaging a FOC'ed GPU would operate 'up to' the reference TDP. | |
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I Googled "Linux overclock nvidia" and found many articles stating Fermi cards cannot be overclocked on Linux. Unless things have changed with the 313.x driver I think I must conclude the only way to overclock nVidia with Linux is to hack the card's BIOS similar to the way it's described here. Note they did the hack on a GT220. What's the odds of it working on a GTX570? Has anybody done this successfully? | |
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I found a really great OC guide that I was reading. I don't know how much it will help, but I will post it anyway. It does touch on the power measurement, and includes, at the end of it, links to OC guides for specific vendor cards like the Asus 670 DC2T and what not. | |
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I found a really great OC guide that I was reading. I don't know how much it will help, but I will post it anyway. It does touch on the power measurement, and includes, at the end of it, links to OC guides for specific vendor cards like the Asus 670 DC2T and what not. Nice reading! It will take a couple of days to read, understand and try it all. | |
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Somewhat OT but I was not able to OC, possibly because I had more than one generation of GPU in the same system, had swapped them around at least 3 times and upgraded drivers at least once (W7). Removed one card but when I tried to move from 306.97 to 310.90 I ended up at a black screen, the monitor's power LCD was red - it was off. The computer was on, but I couldn't use the monitor. | |
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I was then able to OC the GTX660Ti to 1250MHz Get back to this thread on the results of your overclocking. I overclocked my two EVGA 670's to about the same clock speeds and a few tasks were failed recently, so I decided to put them back to stock. You also said you used Afterburner? I use EVGA's Precision program, do you think that would make a difference? Also, one of my cards is running at about 71-72 C, even though the fan speed is as far is it can go (80%) and I placed an addition small fan (not a case fan, a fan about the size of a table lamp) on the side of the case to blow air directly onto the GPUs, and the ambient room temperature is about 26 C. I was wondering how you keep your cards under 70 degrees. Perhaps I should start a separate thread about this. | |
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If starting a thread confers ownership of it then I could say I own the thread but I don't think that way. As far as I am concerned you're on topic here, FWIW. Heat issues and overclocking are all part of the same topic in my mind. | |
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on all of my 660 Ti cards I used MSI Afterburner and maxxed out the Power Limit slider (113%) and it automatically increased the boost gpu clock. If it is possible to increase the Power Limit I would try that first, as it would (AFAIK) increase the voltage a little bit if needed to reach a higher boost clock. | |
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Oh, I've find out, that NVidia forbid the card manufacturers to enable voltage tweaking of the Kepler chips above 1.175V. The MSI Afterburner V2.23 is the last version which supports voltages above this limit. Unfortunately it doesn't support GTX660(Ti). | |
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Is 1.175 volts enough for a decent OC? If not then what is the alternative, is it necessary then to modify the BIOS to get above 1.175? | |
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It should be ok. Search for what other people have achieved with your GPU and see if that is ok for you. | |
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I tried 1250 and 1220MHz for the GTX660Ti, but both OC's resulted in Driver error pop-up messages (310.90). I suspended the tasks, closed the pop-up and was able to resume at default clocks. The TDP was around 85%, the fans were reasonably low and the temps were low ~60°C. The card can run other projects at 1250MHz but not GPUGrid tasks. I guess the 1.175V cap is causing this problem. Other projects don't use as much power. | |
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I've slightly changed my approach to this, and might be getting somewhere: | |
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remember that the 660 Ti will "boost" its clock when under high GPU usage. So if you are setting a certain MHz, it will actually go higher than that when under load. The higher power limit will allow that boost to go higher than normal. Something to keep in mind when setting MHz on the core/shader. You may have to decrease the power limit if you are raising the core clock, or lower the core clock if you are raising the power limit. | |
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Ended up with a failure, after 7 or 8h, but I suspect that these NOELIA tasks are troublesome, the same task failed on two other systems (albeit early on), and plenty of others are also seeing Energies have become nan errors too. I don't believe a mildly overclocked GPU is to blame, especially running at 55°C. | |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Overclocking: what do I tweak first?