Message boards : Number crunching : A trick (for the scientists) to fold proteins more quickly
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A team of researchers of the International School for Advanced Studies (SISSA) of Trieste and of University of Cambridge have devised a method to reduce the time used to simulate how proteins | |
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Quote from http://phys.org/news/2013-05-proteins-quickly.html "We exploit the experimental data obtained observing the proteins through nuclear magnetic resonance, and use them to create restraints to be applied to the model", explained Laio, who has coordinated the research published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS). This reads to me like "If we know the shape of the protein, we can create restraints to make the model fold more quickly". That's ok. But usually we fold proteins with computers because we can't obtain the shape of a given protein by different methods. If we could obtain the shape of all proteins by measurements, the rules of their folding still would be unknown. The real question is not their shape, but the rules make them form to their shape. Or am I missing something here? | |
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This reads to me like "If we know the shape of the protein, we can create restraints to make the model fold more quickly". That's ok. I doubt that their research would be published if that is all they did. More likely, the constraints obtained will allow them to calculate more quickly: "We exploit the experimental data obtained observing the proteins through nuclear magnetic resonance, and use them to create restraints to be applied to the model", explained Laio, who has coordinated the research published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS). | |
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I just thought it would be interesting to hear what people thought. | |
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This is a molecular dynamics project, that predominately involves simulating molecular interaction using molecules of known structure. Basically, the structures wobble about, move around and interact with each other. It doesn't involve folding proteins of unknown structure in order to model their tertiary or quaternary structures. In fact the structures of many molecules change when they interact. The idea that a protein is a solid inflexible molecule is often wrong when it comes to interactions. For example, some surface areas of proteins interact with binding molecules in a way that guides them towards the binding site. Ditto for mediated cleavage... | |
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This is a molecular dynamics project, that predominately involves simulating molecular interaction using molecules of known structure. Basically, the structures wobble about, move around and interact with each other. It doesn't involve folding proteins of unknown structure in order to model their tertiary or quaternary structures. That raises an interesting question. What does GPUGrid do? I get the impression that it is more concerned with molecular interaction rather than folding, but I don't see a clear explanation anywhere. Maybe they do both? I really don't care; whatever the good science is. | |
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Yes, we do mostly protein-ligand interactions as you can see from our publications and a tiny bit folding of smaller proteins. | |
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Yes, we do mostly protein-ligand interactions as you can see from our publications and a tiny bit folding of smaller proteins. Any idea where Folding@home fits in all of this? (I'd share my GPU power to them if ONLY they'd make a BOINC-port of something of the sorts). | |
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Folding works mostly on small to medium sized proteins trying to calculate the best fit/lowest energy shape. It's structural modeling. They also look at some molecules of known conformation to ascertain regional variation in structure, differences during an interaction. They might have diversified somewhat since I last crunched there. | |
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Thanks for the link, tim. We are aware of this kind of research. We also are developing "tricks" to try to speed things up, but we are very careful about how we go about that. Using tricks can often mean you make sacrifices that can affect your results, which we attempt to avoid. | |
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I think that Folding@Home uses both explicit and implicit solvent. | |
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