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Message 32388 - Posted: 28 Aug 2013 | 15:47:16 UTC
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Ssoon available ?

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-gtx-790-titan-ultra,23988.html

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Message 32417 - Posted: 28 Aug 2013 | 20:39:25 UTC

No one would, should, buy these if maxwell is coming in q1 14.

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Message 32425 - Posted: 28 Aug 2013 | 22:23:17 UTC - in response to Message 32417.

No one would, should, buy these if maxwell is coming in q1 14.

If Maxwell is around the corner, it's pointless to bring those cards out. (I don't think that Maxwell will come out in q1 14.)
However, they actually will bring those cards out, if it's the only measure they can take to win the "fastest (single-boarded) GPU in the world" title.
If Maxwell will came out made on 28nm technology, it won't be much more energy efficient than Kepler.

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Message 32426 - Posted: 28 Aug 2013 | 22:54:01 UTC
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If their older graphs still hold true. Maxwell could be an insane leap forward. With technology, these leaps of course tend to taper off, but seeing how far gpus have come in several years. I wouldn't be surprised.

Thing is though. The current Titan and 780 are still "bad" gk110 chips. I fail to see why nvidia would release a functioning chip with all SMX enabled, when they're selling for what 4k?

A 790, sure. A Titan ultra? My bet is no.

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Message 32427 - Posted: 28 Aug 2013 | 22:58:00 UTC - in response to Message 32417.
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I think it's possible that the GTX Titan Ultra and the GTX 790 would appear just before Christmas, or more likely Q1 2014.

6months+ is a long time to wait for an unknown (Maxwell) GPU, and 6months+ is speculative. Perhaps an expensive version will appear in 6months in a supercomputer somewhere, but not in desktop form.

I might agree if I knew Maxwell will work straight out of the box and will bring something extra when it comes to crunching. However, it's looking like another 28nm GPU, so I wouldn't expect too much; more like GF400/GF500.

It took a while to get anywhere with the GF200's, the Fermi's didn't work for some time, and the Titan's are just about working now!

It might be more realistic to think of Maxwell possibly arriving in 9 to 12 months. Long term they might go to 20nm for a second generation (GF900).

The 'unknown' but fun part is that Maxwell will have an ARM processor (that's a sort of CPU). To me it's fun because the GPU started out as a co-processor and soon it will be the CPU that is the co-processor!
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Message 32489 - Posted: 29 Aug 2013 | 18:38:38 UTC

Titan Ultra: I agree that nVidia would only bring this if AMD hits them hard. The performance crown means a lot to them.

Dual GK110: I could imagine this at 300 W with at a maximum 2304 Shaders (GTX780), or maybe even one cluster less. The advantage over GTX690 in games wouldn't be all that much, though. Give it more shaders and the clock speed has to be throttled further due to power constraints.

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Message 32492 - Posted: 29 Aug 2013 | 18:54:36 UTC

NVidia getting hit from 2 sides, AMD and Intel's Xeon Phi in the HPC market. Did you guys catch the specs on the chip in the new Xbox?

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/xbox-one-processor-jaguar-apu-huma,24035.html#xtor=RSS-181

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Message 32547 - Posted: 30 Aug 2013 | 20:36:41 UTC - in response to Message 32492.

Did you guys catch the specs on the chip in the new Xbox?

Nice but unimpressive. It's about an HD7790 with a CPU which roughly equals a modern quad core, if al its 8 threads can be used well.

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Message 32550 - Posted: 30 Aug 2013 | 21:00:47 UTC - in response to Message 32547.


Did you guys catch the specs on the chip in the new Xbox?


We're not going there again...

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Message 32561 - Posted: 31 Aug 2013 | 6:01:05 UTC

One interesting thing, some paranormal investigators discovered that the camera used for keeping track of the players works very well for detecting apparitions (that's if you believe in that stuff). I thought it was pretty cool, that's what I call a spin off.

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Message 32566 - Posted: 31 Aug 2013 | 12:52:35 UTC - in response to Message 32561.
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One interesting thing, some paranormal investigators discovered that the camera used for keeping track of the players works very well for detecting apparitions (that's if you believe in that stuff).

Haha.. reminds me of this nice little gem.

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We're not going there again...

To formulate it a bit longer: supporting AMd GPUs via OpenCL itself would be a huge task for GPU-Grid, which has been talked about a lot in the past. And the new XBox chip being moderately powered and stuck in a console with lot's of possible software support issues on its own (you never know what will happen) doesn't really help.

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Message 32895 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013 | 17:30:29 UTC - in response to Message 32566.
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Hello: I have seen the results of tasks performed with GTX TITAN and equivalents compared with my GTX 770 and the difference is approximately 30% reduction in execution time, which is very true.

The cost / power in reference to the price I do not think we're up for € 1,000 and € 350 GTX770 TITAN difference is not 30% is almost three times more, I think in this aspect ruinous investment.

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Message 32903 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013 | 20:57:10 UTC - in response to Message 32895.


The cost / power in reference to the price I do not think we're up for € 1,000 and € 350 GTX770 TITAN difference is not 30% is almost three times more, I think in this aspect ruinous investment.



Yeah, the 770 is probably the most economic GPUGRID card right now, for single host crunchers.

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Message 32904 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013 | 21:01:26 UTC - in response to Message 32566.

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More than that - the PS3's Linux support was a lucky break for us, being free and a familiar environment. Without aid from Microsoft, there's no way we could afford the price of entry ($$ and hours) for XBox development, even if we wanted to. Who knows though, maybe Bill reads these forums...

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Message 32908 - Posted: 11 Sep 2013 | 23:20:59 UTC - in response to Message 32903.


The cost / power in reference to the price I do not think we're up for € 1,000 and € 350 GTX770 TITAN difference is not 30% is almost three times more, I think in this aspect ruinous investment.



Yeah, the 770 is probably the most economic GPUGRID card right now, for single host crunchers.

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Last time I looked I thought a GTX670 for £188 was probably the best bang for buck, but prices vary from location to location and only a couple of months ago the obvious choice was the GTX660 (almost world wide). Mind you, the most basic 670 isn't the same as the most pimped. I certainly wouldn't go for a £205 GTX760 when a GTX670 costs less but does more.
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Message 32916 - Posted: 12 Sep 2013 | 14:13:58 UTC - in response to Message 32895.

Hello: I have seen the results of tasks performed with GTX TITAN and equivalents compared with my GTX 770 and the difference is approximately 30% reduction in execution time, which is very true.

The cost / power in reference to the price I do not think we're up for € 1,000 and € 350 GTX770 TITAN difference is not 30% is almost three times more, I think in this aspect ruinous investment.

Last month I paid €469 for my Asus GTX770 and in the Netherlands a Titan is available for €980. So for One Titan I can get two 770´s.
The Titan is indeed not a lot faster and has only 1 fan. The 770 has two, and I have seen them with even 3 fans. So better cooling then a Titan I suppose.

A GTX690 has the same price as a Titan in the Netherlands but has two processors, and thus does more work in about the same time. So that would be a better choice than a Titan. However I would like to have one.
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Message 33037 - Posted: 17 Sep 2013 | 12:41:11 UTC
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But when one compares a 780 to a 770, it does get much better. Still not the best deal, but top of the line cards, titans, always carry a premium.

I just like my machines to get things done fast. ;P

I dont know how it looks from a performace/watt ratio. But knocking nearly 3 hours off of a long run is a big difference.

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Message 33547 - Posted: 19 Oct 2013 | 11:54:20 UTC - in response to Message 33037.
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780 TI

http://videocardz.com/46955/nvidia-announces-geforce-gtx-780-ti


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Message 33551 - Posted: 19 Oct 2013 | 14:58:50 UTC - in response to Message 33547.

That is good news. Thanks for posting Zarck!
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Message 33553 - Posted: 19 Oct 2013 | 15:26:16 UTC - in response to Message 33547.
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780 TI

http://videocardz.com/46955/nvidia-announces-geforce-gtx-780-ti

That's too bad that we don't know anything but its name. I hope it will be a GTX TITAN minus 3GB RAM.
I've never urged AMD to release their new product at last as I am now.

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Message 33582 - Posted: 22 Oct 2013 | 18:57:14 UTC - in response to Message 33553.

780 TI

http://videocardz.com/46955/nvidia-announces-geforce-gtx-780-ti

That's too bad that we don't know anything but its name. I hope it will be a GTX TITAN minus 3GB RAM.
I've never urged AMD to release their new product at last as I am now.

According to the latest information leaked, the GTX 780 Ti will be a TITAN minus 3GB RAM and an SMX.
(TITAN: 14 SMX, 780Ti: 13 SMX, 780: 12 SMX, 770/680: 8 SMX, 670/660Ti: 7 SMX; 1 SMX = 192 CUDA cores)



I've checked the inf files of the 331.40 driver, and there is no device id 10DE - 1006 present in the nv4_disp.inf, but it's very easy to put such a line into that inf file, so this picture could be either fake or true. I hope it's true...

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Message 33583 - Posted: 22 Oct 2013 | 21:55:47 UTC - in response to Message 33582.

Should that 780Ti not be a PCIe 3.0, or is it MOBO related?
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Message 33584 - Posted: 23 Oct 2013 | 3:52:10 UTC - in response to Message 33583.

Should that 780Ti not be a PCIe 3.0, or is it MOBO related?

It's MOBO related (limited).

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