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Message 35106 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 1:43:43 UTC
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I am essentially banned ... my GPU is working on a NOTHING work unit and i got a message from GPU Grid that said its only for NVidia GPUs ... i got a 780TI factory overclocked with cooling that will support HEAVY USE ... i went through the "tweeks" section and dialed in my card and maybe run it a "little" hot ...
(and i do mean only a little ... i am not going to burn it up) turned in a long work unit in 7.5 hours ... now ... i got "blank" work units and i still got another Card to bring online and a friend i am bringing over from FAH who's cards are hotter than mine ... but ...my card/account is blacklisted ...a little help here ... maybe YOU (GPUGRID) should Re-think what is possible instead of saying it must at least 8 hours ... so i need a little help here ... open to potions


a little extra info if it will help ... i am running an SSD with no swap file saving every 15 minutse ... 16 gigs of quad channel ram and dedicated 2 cores to service the GPU ... thats all that comes to mind ... along with your tweeks section

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Message 35107 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 3:08:31 UTC - in response to Message 35106.

One day?? You work fast!!! My personal best is 2 weeks. Did you send a PM to the admins and tell them they're a bunch of greasy spics or what?

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Message 35108 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 8:37:54 UTC - in response to Message 35107.

just this post ... thats all ... hoping for a better resolution than finding another project to work on ... i like what they are working on here and DC is a long standing hobby of mine so ... if they cant or wont fix it ... guess ill just have to move along ... you would think .. that they would know members of
[H]orde ... are pretty serious about their computer hardware

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Message 35109 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 8:58:23 UTC
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Sorry but you will have to be a bit more specific. I don't understand what is happening exactly.
First of all your GPU is not visible on your account. I don't know if that's normal since I don't use BOINC but just pointing it out.
And from what I can see you just completed and validated 2 WUs so it seems to be working fine.
Also we don't ban people. The only "banning" behaviour that is known is that if you fail many consecutive WUs, the server stops sending you WUs for a short while to make sure you don't overtax the system.

Could you explain a bit more?

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Message 35115 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 13:51:08 UTC - in response to Message 35109.

I would be happy to explain ... first symptom was my GPU not showing a load
AT ALL ... but Bionic manager ... showing i was crunching a WU ...
Very Odd me thinks ...
then i get a message/Notice ... in the manager ....saying ... i can only use an Nvidia GPU ...
whats up with that?
now the manager showes no installed GPU ...
that sounds like to me ... i got nurffed ...

what other information would you like? ... i would like to get this resolved
when everything is all nice nice .... ill bring the other one online

i figure i can crank out around 1,000k/PPD out of 2 cards ...
(all the [H]orde rivalry u understand)
i got to get a head start before me buddie comes over here from FAH
hehehe

we are both bringing some Video Power to Boinc ... and leaving quad processors at FAH .... i wonder if i can Spank him on both fronts?

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Message 35116 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 14:23:51 UTC - in response to Message 35115.

Hm that seems to be very clearly a driver or BOINC problem. So for that you need someone in the forum to help you with. I have no clue about that stuff so lets hope someone passes by the thread and helps you out.
Or check out the FAQ section or sticky guides. Maybe you will find some info.

So to summarize: you have a 780TI that is not recognized by BOINC and hence you get no workunits.

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Message 35119 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 15:30:27 UTC - in response to Message 35116.
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Hm that seems to be very clearly a driver or BOINC problem. So for that you need someone in the forum to help you with. I have no clue about that stuff so lets hope someone passes by the thread and helps you out.
Or check out the FAQ section or sticky guides. Maybe you will find some info.

So to summarize: you have a 780TI that is not recognized by BOINC and hence you get no workunits.


The usual reason for BOINC not recognizing the GPU on Windows is that it is installed as a service (the default mode). To correct that just run the BOINC installer again (no need to uninstall first) and on the 3rd screen click Advanced and de-select Service install. The re-install should keep all of your other settings.

If BOINC recognizes your GPU then you will notice 2 things:

1) When BOINC client (as opposed to BOINC manager) starts, it will put lines in its log file named stdoutdae.txt ( by default c:\ProgramData\BOINC\stdoutdae.txt) ) that name you GPU, driver and other info. You can view that log file in any text editor (nice because it likely has a search function) but the easier way to view the most recent entries in the log is to use BOINC manager... click Advanced -> Event Log.

2) On your list of computers the column labled "GPU" will show your GPU but only after you get BOINC client to recognize it and report it to the GPUgrid project server. The client reports your GPU model (and other info) to the server every time it requests tasks and any time you highlight any project and click Update in BOINC manager.

If re-installing as non-service doesn't get your GPU recognized then I would guess it's a driver problem.

If your buddies coming from FAH happen to be running Win XP or Linux they will walk all over your 780Ti. In fact my GTX 670 on Linux might even kick your 780Ti's butt. Higher end cards (780 and 780ti) don't perform well at this project on Vista/7/8/8.1 versions of Windows. See other recent threads for details.

Also, excessive OC on this project usually gets you nothing but errors. The application in use has been around for a while so it's well optimised, it works the snot out of your GPU even without OC. Monitor temps carefully.

Dirty low down trick suggestion

If you don't mind pulling a dirty trick/prank then tell your buddies things aren't quite ready at GPUgrid then secretly install XP or Linux. If they're running Vista/7/8 when they sign up here and don't read this forum they won't figure out for a long time why you're kicking their butt. Gotta RTFM and RTFF right? muaaahahahahahaha

And welcome to GPUgrid and BOINC:-)
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Message 35120 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 15:44:37 UTC - in response to Message 35119.

The usual reason for BOINC not recognizing the GPU on Windows is that it is installed as a service (the default mode). To correct that just run the BOINC installer again (no need to uninstall first) and on the 3rd screen click Advanced and de-select Service install. The re-install should keep all of your other settings.

If you're planning to keep the same version of BOINC, you do actually have to uninstall BOINC first - otherwise the installer starts in 'repair' mode, and doesn't let you change any settings.

You can perform a version upgrade and mode change in a single step, but since the OP is already running v7.2.39, that won't be possible for a few days yet.

Uninstalling leaves all project data and settings intact, so it's almost as quick and easy as installing 'over the top'.

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Message 35127 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 20:00:56 UTC - in response to Message 35120.

i know i didnt ask it (here) but ... i was wondering if The OS makes a difference ... WIN7 ... not as good as XP or Linux (Ubuntu in my case) ... OK got it ... which is better ... XP or linux? ... i Presume Linux because i SOoooo strugle with it ...
Ill switch the OS ... as far as a dirty trick goes ... Naah ... it would be at YOUR cost of not having additional Processors working that i would get a lead ...
Im not down with that ... he will probably kick my butt here anyhow .... he is more GPU based and i am more quad processor (4P) based so ... got to let him win once in a while or the whiner wont want to play ...
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Message 35129 - Posted: 18 Feb 2014 | 21:25:32 UTC - in response to Message 35127.

They say Linux and XP are about equal with regard to GPU performance at this project. XP has more tools than Linux ATM but that is going to change for 2 reasons:

1) XP is reaching end of life (probably the lesser of the 2 reasons)

2) I am writing tools for Linux geared precisely toward this project that will give Linux a clear advantage in ease of use and overall performance. See the thread "What is so hard about Linux?" for details. There is of course heavy trolling/bickering/incivility in the thread but it also gives you an idea how Linux is going to out perform XP for crunching this project in the not too distant future.

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Message 35170 - Posted: 20 Feb 2014 | 12:36:38 UTC - in response to Message 35115.


then i get a message/Notice ... in the manager ....saying ... i can only use an Nvidia GPU ...
whats up with that?


This project does NOT use AMD/ATI gpu's, they DO use Nvidia gpu's and most cpu's here, that is why you got that message. It is much different to program for one as opposed to the other and since Nvidia is what alot of teachers know, the students learn that too. I am not saying they can't, I am saying this project chooses to only use Nvidia gpu's.

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