Message boards : Number crunching : Linux live USB
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Hi gang, | |
ID: 35298 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Any chance you could add a version with both NVidia and AMD drivers? | |
ID: 35308 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
I'm having trouble and I think maybe I got a corrupted download or something. I would just d/l it again but it took over 90 minutes to get the first copy so I don't want to tie up your obviously limited bandwidth for nothing. Do you have a SHA256 sum for the file so I can verify it please? | |
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No, sorry. It's a monumental pain in the arse to make the Nvidia and AMD drivers co-exist in the same image. The only way to do it is to have the display configured for the AMD card, which would obviously not be much good for those majority with only Nvidia cards. Matt | |
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md5sum GPUGRID-Live.zip 032c5685fb9834246cd101419b4e9b33 GPUGRID-Live.zip Matt | |
ID: 35313 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Haven't tried it yet, but what about Cool-bits and cc_config? Could it include a script to look for GPU's and add them to cool-bits (for fan control through NV Xserver), and could the cc_config file be automatically built? Most people struggle with both. | |
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That's the way it's done in Windows. The AMD card should be primary and run the monitor and whatever GPU project and the NVidia runs GPUGrid. Works great and no dummy plug needed. I estimate there are more people running this configuration than you think. If I knew more about Linux I'd do it myself, but are any of the Linux gurus out there up to taking this image and adding AMD support with the AMD GPU as the primary and NVidia as the secondary? | |
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I think Matt knows it and is just trolling you a little. If I knew more about Linux I'd do it myself, but are any of the Linux gurus out there up to taking this image and adding AMD support with the AMD GPU as the primary and NVidia as the secondary? I checked with the gurus and so far none are willing so I guess it's up to Matt, me and any other wannabe who wants to join the effort. I would like to see the final product have on-user-demand script upgrade and rollback functionality. I am sure I can code that but there is a security issue that I don't know how to resolve in a way that would make users feel secure. The problem stems from the fact that to with mess vid drivers or any system level stuff the script has to run as root. Running as root the script could do ANYTHING to the system. Do you and/or the user base trust me to not include malicious code in the script? Not sure I would. Is it sufficient for you to know that I'm fully aware I would be apprehended by the authorities in short order if I did something illegal like hack your bank account and steal your dough? And how do we handle security on issues that involve lesser illegal acts authorities don't have time to bother with? I have all sorts of script fragments I could contribute and intend to write more. Perhaps I could submit them to Matt, he could clear them for security threats then incorporate them into an image. He would have to learn Python, of course but I think he's likely up to that challenge ;-) Also, I've downloaded the LiLi software I suspect Matt might have used to create his Linux image file. It looks easy enough to use and I'll probably have an image ready for peeps to try in a few days. I would want it to be installable to HDD though, not just a pen drive. I'm not sure yet if that's possible with LiLi or does one need to convert the .img to .iso? I've cross-posted much of this in the "What's so hard about Linux" thread. And I don't have an AMD card to work with but could get one soon enough. ____________ BOINC <<--- credit whores, pedants, alien hunters | |
ID: 35325 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
What was I thinking? LiLi doesn't create .img files, it's a Windows app that creates a bootable Linux USB stick from an ISO. Apparently you just select the flavor and version of Linux you want from a dropdown list, plugin a USB stick and LiLi takes care of the rest, like UNetBootIn does on Linux except LiLi runs on Windows. That is an awesome goof proof way for anybody to testdrive Linux, doesn't get any easier, but it doesn't install BOINC on the USB stick. | |
ID: 35326 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Hi, No if the issue but to create an ISO in Linux (Ubuntu) (actually a LiveCD or USB) starting from a fully configured installation to measure (Boinc, Nvidia + Coolbits etc ...) is a very suitable tool "Systemback ". http://sourceforge.net/projects/systemback/ | |
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That's the way it's done in Windows. Linux, alas, is rather less accommodating. If I make an image with AMD support, it simply won't work in systems with only Nvidia cards. If enough people use this version I'll think about an Nvidia+AMD version, but won't do it just for fun (been there, done that, and it's not fun) Matt | |
ID: 35329 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Hi, No if the issue but to create an ISO in Linux (Ubuntu) (actually a LiveCD or USB) starting from a fully configured installation to measure (Boinc, Nvidia + Coolbits etc ...) is a very suitable tool "Systemback ". http://sourceforge.net/projects/systemback/ Thanks, Carlesa :-) I installed it and it's creating an ISO image of my Ubuntu 12.04.3 system as I type. If this works then Crunchuntu (BOINCuntu?) will become a reality faster than I ever imagined. ____________ BOINC <<--- credit whores, pedants, alien hunters | |
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Hi, does the image make use of a persistent ram disk for the project folders? | |
ID: 35333 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Yes, the image is persistent. It's just like running from any hard disk install. | |
ID: 35334 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
You are building us an OS, you ALREADY have Root access so those of us that have no clue can make this work. IF we go on this ride with you we MUST trust you or hop off and suffer the road burns because of it. I think the key is to do what you need to do, maybe giving a short yes/no message about the dangers, and then when we say yes run it and then exit yourself from the Root status, returning our pc back to us. I think the key is to TELL US when you are doing things that could be harmful and let us then choose to proceed or not. If we do then it is us taking the risks not you. Hackers don't usually ask for permission, they take it. Put your script on a forum so it can be vetted by those that understand what you are doing, then let us choose whether to run it or not. We ARE asking for your help, we MUST trust you at least to the point of letting you into our pc's. Not everyone needs or wants to run gpu cards in their machines, but those that do can't do it themselves or this whole thing would be moot. Linux is public use, if you are hacking my bank account it will soon be apparent to many others and you will blacklisted as will any further attempts by you to do much of anything. Your generous offer comes with the risk on my part of letting you do what you need to do so I can do what I want to do. | |
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Hi Mikey, I think things are pulling out of the place. | |
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Settle down Mikey. From what I've seen over quite a few years I'd say that you can trust Dagorath not to hack your system (at least I do). Pretty much what he's saying applies to any of the hundreds? of distros out there. If you want to worry, think of all the info MS and Apple are gathering about you when you run their OSes. | |
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I think Mikey is simply giving me a vote of confidence. I don't think he's upset or worried or anything like that. Thanks, Mikey. | |
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Settle down Mikey. From what I've seen over quite a few years I'd say that you can trust Dagorath not to hack your system (at least I do). Pretty much what he's saying applies to any of the hundreds? of distros out there. If you want to worry, think of all the info MS and Apple are gathering about you when you run their OSes. You misunderstood me, I was trying to say that I absolutely trust Dagorath with this project and my pc's. That being said will I move ALL of my pc's to this project, no I won't. I have 15 pc's running and have lots of irons in the fire at several different projects. Would I love to stop using some of the older version of Windows and get away from some of Windows 'validation' issues, yes I would, could I ever see myself switching to Linux whole hog, nope not likely. I am 61 years old and have been crunching since 1999 and have owned my own pc's since 1978 and 'programmed' them on and off since I was in high school. I remember next to nothing about programming though and NEVER did any type of programming beyond what interested me, which was pretty basic stuff. | |
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You misunderstood me, I was trying to say that I absolutely trust Dagorath with this project and my pc's. I sit corrected ;-) | |
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Good dog! Now shake a paw ;-) | |
ID: 35413 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Good dog! Now shake a paw ;-) | |
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Good dog! Now shake a paw ;-) Woof! Do I get a treat? | |
ID: 35432 | Rating: 0 | rate: / Reply Quote | |
Good dog! Now shake a paw ;-) No I think you are on a diet due to too many treats lately, sorry. You can go have a nice roll around backscratch in the yard though. | |
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I see this thread is a bit old now, but I'm wondering if Matt's image file is still available somewhere. The link in the original post is dead. | |
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I see this thread is a bit old now, but I'm wondering if Matt's image file is still available somewhere. The link in the original post is dead. It's live again now. | |
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Thanks! | |
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Message boards : Number crunching : Linux live USB