Message boards : Number crunching : The Simulation has become unstable. Terminating to avoid lock-up.
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My information is below. Any suggestions would be welcomed. | |
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This message shows you that something went horribly wrong. If it happens just once the app can usually recover, but if it happens too often or too quickly, it terminates. | |
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Normally your WU's seem fine, so it does not like a fundamental issue. What I do notice, though, is that your GPU clock of 1342 MHz is rather high. Do you have a heavily factory-overclocked card? If so: the manufacturer may have choosen the clock speed too agressively. Or if it's your overclock: you may have set the clock too high. What I have noticed after reading many stderr output files is that the mentioned clock is the one the manufacturer has "put in the card". So to say the speed mentioned on the box. For instance one on my 780Ti runs almost always higher then the mentioned value in the stderr file. ____________ Greetings from TJ | |
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For the record, I've recently activated a pair of GTX 970's. It's EVGA's Super-Superclocked edition. They are running without SLI mode (old motherboard). I haven't overclocked them beyond factory settings. | |
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By now you seem to be running fine, mostly. I inspected about 5 WUs and only found 1 more error, from which the simulation recovered. What I also notice, though, is that your runtimes are really long for such cards and WUs. How is your CPU & GPU load? | |
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Good evening Mr. S and thank you for all of your feedback. | |
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Good evening Mr. S and thank you for all of your feedback. You must also be running CPU WUs. How many? There's a pretty gaping disparity - I'm upgrading parts as I can afford them, and awesome stuff gets onto the market. I'm pretty late to the game in learning about buying CPUs, but from my understanding is that both AMD and Intel are at the end of their lifespans for their current sockets. Meanwhile the nicer solutions, like 6 and 8 core CPUs or a comparable duel CPU socket motherboard, will remain cost prohibitive for quite a while. The fastest (for DC) CPU currently for your socket is the Phenom II X6, available in 95W-125W models. They're available on eBay but usually go for prices that are about what they originally cost (sometimes more). My X6s handle 2 NVidia cards running GPUGRID and 5 CPU WUs from various projects. If you want more wiggle room you can limit it to 4 WUs. There's also the 83xx series which runs 8 cores but which is also quite a bit slower (for DC) per core. A good cooler for any CPU is advised. | |
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I suspect your GPUs would appreciate more CPU support. Limit BOINC CPU usage by "use at most 66% of CPUs" in the advanced settings. That should make your BOINC run one CPU task less. Let's see if this stretches your GPUs wings! For WUs like this one your cards should take about 22 ks instead of 28 ks. This won't help stability, though ;) | |
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Edit: I don't think a CPU upgrade would make all that much sense on that old socket. And you're right, buying 6 or 8 core CPUs is prohibitive and will remain so for some time. On the AMD side I don't see anything changing this anytime soon, whereas on the Intel side the current Haswells are nice but expensive, as always. There's probably going to be an upgrade for that socket to 14 nm Broadwell around summer next year, but around the same time the next CPU architecture step should also arrive. I'm sure I'd want the newer one, but we don't have all facts yet. Maybe, maybe not. If he wants to run CPU projects then a simple CPU upgrade for that AM3 socket would give him another 3 cores to play with. As I said the Phenom II X6 CPUs are going for near retail (often more) but there's a reason for that. They're good. Sure Haswell is the latest thing. I've got 15 of them running in my in home shop right now (Folding). For laptops they're GREAT due to low power usage in certain states. For performance desktops: yawn. No real improvement over Ivy Bridge. For DC a lot of it depends on your project. One of my favorite projects is Yoyo and there the Phenom X6 is still king. In other projects Ivy Bridge is the best. We really have to ditch our brand loyalty and paid-performance-site hype and look at the numbers rationally. I've been building/ocing/modding boxes since the 8088/8086 to V20/V30 days. Heard a lot of hype. Been bored by a lot of fans. If I was building a new desktop box right now I'd go with Haswell or Ivy Bridge. Would I ditch an AM3 platform for those: NOT. The desktop CPU landscape of late has been pretty boring. Nothing worth much on either the Intel or AMD fronts. Hopefully that will change, but I wouldn't hold my breath unless you like yourself in blue. | |
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Edit: I don't think a CPU upgrade would make all that much sense on that old socket. And you're right, buying 6 or 8 core CPUs is prohibitive and will remain so for some time. On the AMD side I don't see anything changing this anytime soon, whereas on the Intel side the current Haswells are nice but expensive, as always. There's probably going to be an upgrade for that socket to 14 nm Broadwell around summer next year, but around the same time the next CPU architecture step should also arrive. I'm sure I'd want the newer one, but we don't have all facts yet. The standard Haswell/Ivy Quad core 85W desktop CPU readily available - the 25W/35W Quad Haswell/Ivy is hard to find and there a premium asking price. Lowering the CPU cooling requirement helps a multi GPU setup. At higher power rate: AMD runs integer near or at Haswell/Ivy speeds. AMD AVX FP is gimped. AVX runs hotter on Intel. (runs at or above TDP with FMA/AVX) Intel Broadwell adds 512bit instruction sets. AVX IPC for Haswell is slightly better than Ivy due to more (2) execution ports. You're right about CPU being stagnant. Haswell been here for year and half. But look at GP-GPU side: Nvidia been with Kelper for 3 years. AMD with GCN for over Two. Maxwell is not true compute arch yet. The Big Maxwell should change this. The one thing: hardware been steady while software opened up in last few years. There are more tools being released for developers. | |
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Maybe, maybe not. If he wants to run CPU projects then a simple CPU upgrade for that AM3 socket would give him another 3 cores to play with. As I said the Phenom II X6 CPUs are going for near retail (often more) but there's a reason for that. They're good. Sure Haswell is the latest thing. I've got 15 of them running in my in home shop right now (Folding). For laptops they're GREAT due to low power usage in certain states. For performance desktops: yawn. No real improvement over Ivy Bridge. For DC a lot of it depends on your project. One of my favorite projects is Yoyo and there the Phenom X6 is still king. In other projects Ivy Bridge is the best. We really have to ditch our brand loyalty and paid-performance-site hype and look at the numbers rationally. I've been building/ocing/modding boxes since the 8088/8086 to V20/V30 days. Heard a lot of hype. Been bored by a lot of fans. If I was building a new desktop box right now I'd go with Haswell or Ivy Bridge. Would I ditch an AM3 platform for those: NOT. The desktop CPU landscape of late has been pretty boring. Nothing worth much on either the Intel or AMD fronts. Hopefully that will change, but I wouldn't hold my breath unless you like yourself in blue. The Phenom X6 1035T/1045T/1065T and some 1055T CPUs are 95W and to tell the truth they're not that much slower for DC then the T1090 125W. CPU-Z reports my newest Phenom X6 T1045 as 92.6W TDP. The all time highest producing CPU at Yoyo is a Phenom X6 T1035 with mild OC Except for a gaggle of Github 40 core Xeons it's also the highest in RAC and even surpasses a few of those (and all the 32 core Xeons). The Haswells are definitely much more efficient in an idle state but for us DC junkies our machines are never at idle :-) | |
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All Project stats has you at #1 in USA for Total Credit! ( No ASIC projects are included in rankings) | |
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same here | |
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Message boards : Number crunching : The Simulation has become unstable. Terminating to avoid lock-up.