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Message 8240 - Posted: 6 Apr 2009 | 10:49:11 UTC
Last modified: 6 Apr 2009 | 10:57:23 UTC

A list that gives you an overview about the latest Nvidia cards and their €/Credit rating.
Prices: Cheapest found incl. tax and excl. shipping.
The credit entity is GFLOPS from wikipedia.de. € prices from idealo.de, $ from pricegrabber.com.
Power consumption measured from the whole test-system (not just the GPU), full load simulated with Crysis Warhead.

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Model - - - - - - - - - - - GFLOPS - - - - - € - - GFLOPS/€ - - - - - $ - - - GLOPS/$ - - - - - idle - - - - load
Geforce 8800 GS - - - - - 396 - - - - - - 166€ - - 2.39 ... -,-
Geforce 8800 GT - - - - - 504 - - - - - - 112€ - - 4.50 - - - - - - $162 - - - - - 3.11
Geforce 8800 GTS - - - - 346 - - - - - - 95€ - - - 3.64 - - - - - - $149 - - - - - 2.32
Geforce 8800 GTS(512) - 624 - - - - - 120€ - - - 5.20 - - - - - - $209 - - - - 2.99
Geforce 8800 GTX - - - - 518 - - - - - - 139€ - - - 3.73 - - - - - - $250 - - - - 2.07

Geforce 9800 GT - - - - - 508 - - - - - - 81€ - - - - 6.27 - - - - - - $90 - - - - - 5.64 - - - - - 147W - - 253W
Geforce 9800 GTX - - - - 648 - - - - - - 126€ - - - 5.14 - - - - - - $135 - - - - - 4.8
Geforce 9800 GTX+ - - - 705 - - - - - - 118€ - - - 5.97 - - - - - - $165 - - - - - 4.27 - - - - - 163W - - 289W
Geforce 9800 GX2 - - - 1052 - - - - - - 199€ - - - 5.29 - - - - - - $222 - - - - - 4.74

ExtraTerrestrial Apes wrote
-> ... the advantage of G200-based cards is >50% at the same theoretical FLOPS ...

(added 200series computing-bonus~ 50%)

Model - - - - - - - - - - - - GFLOPS - - - - - € - - - GFLOPS/€ - - - - - - $ - - - GLOPS/$ - - - - - idle - - - - load
Geforce GTS 250 - - - 705(1060) - - - 114€ -- 6.18(9.30) - - - - $125 -- 5.64(8.48) - - - - 135W - - 274W
Geforce GTX 260 - - - 715,4(1070) - - 142€ -- 5.04(7.54) - - - - $179 -- 3.40(5.98) - - - - 142W - - 294W
Geforce GTX 260(216) - 805(1210) - - 160€ -- 5.03(7.56) - - - - $194 -- 4.15(6.24) - - - - 145W - - 288W
Geforce GTX 280 - - - 933,1(1400) - - 289€ -- 3.23(4.84) - - - - $265 -- 3.52(5.28) - - - - 148W - - 347W
Geforce GTX 285 - - - 1062,7(1595) -- 287€ -- 3.70(5.56) - - - - $345 -- 3.08(4.62) - - - - 139W - - 326W
Geforce GTX 295 - - - 1788,4(2683) -- 410€ -- 4.36(6.54) - - - - $490 -- 3.65(5.48) - - - - 178W - - 400W

Geforce GTS 150 -- (705)1050 ... -,-

Nvidia Tesla

C870 GPU Computing Processor -- 519 -- 946€ -- 0.55
D870 Deskside Supercomputer -- 1037 -- 4116€ -- 0.25
S870 GPU Computing Server -- 2074 -- 4509€ -- 0.46
C1060 Computing Processor -- 1936 -- 1502€ -- 1.29
S1070 1U Computing Server -- 4320 -- 6834€ -- 0.63

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1. The speedup of G200:
- GDF just said 10 - 15%
- based on fractals numbers it's ~90%
- when the G200 optimizations were introduced I estimated >30% performance advantage for G200 at the same theoretical FLOPS
- I can confirm 39.3s for these WUs with a slightly overclocked 9800GTX+
- it may well be that the G200-advantage is not constant and scales with WU sizes, which may explain why we're seeing a much higher advantage now than in the past (with smaller WUs)
- my 9800GTX+ was good for ~6400 RAC, whereas GTX 260 made 10 - 11k RAC prior to the recent credit adjustments
- G200 is more future proof than G92. Both are DX 10.0, but G200 has additional features which may or may not be needed for future CUDA clients.

-> concluding these observations I can say that the advantage of G200-based cards is >50% at the same theoretical FLOPS. This screws your table entirely.

Added the theoretical 50% bonus. Still would like to have a precise number. e.g. compare 2 identical WU´s. One on a 8 or 9 series card, one on a 200.

2. The prices:
- the last time I checked (around christmas 2008) there were large differences in the prices of the cards relative to each other (compared Germany and USA). E.g. in Germany the G92 cards were much cheaper, but the GTX 260 was more expensive.
-> check your local prices, don't just look and the values and decide flat out, which card to buy

Added $ prices. You are right, prices vary alot. But still better than the official nvidia prices.

- also consider power consumption.. getting hard numbers for GPU-Grid is difficult, but several smaller cards will generally be less power efficient than a single fat card.

Added power consumption.

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Message 8243 - Posted: 6 Apr 2009 | 12:57:44 UTC - in response to Message 8240.

Thanks for continued work on this list. A couple of quick questions/suugestions though...

1) The 8800GTS(320/640) and 8800GTX should really be excluded from the list here since these cards have 1.0 compute capability and, therefore, are not compatible with GPUGRID (The same applies for all of the 870 series Tesla).

2) Your price for the 8800GS is much too high. One can pick up a 9600GSO (96-shader version which is the same card) on Ebay or NewEgg for $70 - $100 US. That equates to about 52 to 75 euros at today's exchange rate. And with that pricing, the 8800GS/9600GSO will come very close to the GTS250 in GFLOPS/euro.

3) If I can find the time (or if anyone else wants to) a comparable US dollar, Japanese Yen, etc. chart would be interesting. Based on some price differences that I see, the best bang-for-the-price card may vary considerably by geographic location...




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Message 8255 - Posted: 6 Apr 2009 | 17:36:27 UTC

Hi Loki,

this is starting to look really good! I hope we can make it a sticky soon (I'm trying to get you the rights to edit the first post). But before we get there some more remarks:

- excluding 8800GTS 320/640 and 8800GTX is good
- including 9600GSO (386 MB) and maybe 9600GT would be nice
- GTS 150 and GTS 250 are both identical to the 9800GTX+ and are thus G92b based and don't get the G200 bonus

I'm not sure about the Teslas, but I think
- C1060 and S1070 both use G200 (a/b) and thus get the performance bonus
- C870 uses a G80, D870 2 of them and S870 4 G80s.. therefore all of them can't be used for GPU-Grid

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Message 8270 - Posted: 7 Apr 2009 | 2:28:47 UTC

The best to you!
I have a budget of about $500 +- $50 for a Video card that IS compatible with gpugrid and S@H (NOT TYPE G80)for crunshing as well as gaming. I own a Quad Core Intel Q9550 with a P35-DS3P Gigabyte MB Socket 775 + 4 GIG of RAM.

Unfortunately I have a NVIDIA 8800GTX (wich has type G80) 768 MB RAM.
Therefore I cannot use it for certain projects. Allthough it does a fine job crunshing S@H WU in less than 3 minutes I cannot run other projects. (I can but not fast enough)!

This one (Q9550)is our main computer which I seriously game on as well as crunching when not in use.

Obviously the "type" is important but what about "Sps" and "Gflops"? Are they important too?
I also am a "NVIDIA guy" but open up to suggestions.
Like I said I can game up to 8 hours a day and sometime all day when I dont work shiftwork.

Any suggestions out there for "bang on the buck"?

I have a 2nd computer that crunshes only MW WU with an ATI (first one ever in 11 years) in it.

Thank you.
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Message 8274 - Posted: 7 Apr 2009 | 7:05:45 UTC - in response to Message 8270.
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Hi Martin,

Yes, the SPs and Gflops are also important. ;)
SPs are the number of shader processors a card has. The more shaders, the faster it can crunch. Gflops (=Giga Floating Point Operations) is the speed of the card. As you can see in koschi's table - more shaders = more speed.

Every card in the table that is green should be working fine on GPUGRID. I don't know about the prices in Canada, but for about $500, you should be able to get a GTX 295 which has 2 GPUs and can crunch 2 WUs simultaneously. But you'll also need a powerful PSU for that graphics card...



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Message 8285 - Posted: 7 Apr 2009 | 20:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 8270.

The GTX 295 is indeed the most powerful single card solution which fits your budget. It's also got a good performance per money ratio. However, I'm not a fan of spending big bucks on PC hardware, as it will be obsolete soon anyway. I'd rather buy a GTX 260 Core 216 now and eventually upgrade to a 40 nm chip, maybe even with DX 11 (due out between summer and end of the year).

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Message 8289 - Posted: 7 Apr 2009 | 22:24:03 UTC - in response to Message 8285.

the new gtx275 should be as powerful as the gtx285 and quite cheap.
I think that this is now probably the best card.

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Message 8290 - Posted: 7 Apr 2009 | 23:56:37 UTC - in response to Message 8274.

Hello all.
I got a GTX285. The price was $490 all included.
The GTX295 was a bit out of Budget at a bit over $710 (Canadian)
I needed an upgrade anyways.

as far as the 8800GTX I will try and sell it on a site we have here in Regina for used item. I think 150 bucks would be a fair price. They range from $100 to $300 on the net for a used one.

Now that I have it I have not one iota of a WU lol.

I reached the quota for seti but unistalled boick and reinstalled it and now ill have to wait a day. GPIGRID server is down and MW well just doesnt provides enough WU lol.

Thank to those who input their comments.

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Message 8568 - Posted: 18 Apr 2009 | 15:00:02 UTC

I'll close this thread as it's being replaced by a sticky, which can still be edited.

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